12 Nov 12.. day ALPA Died?
11-13-2012, 04:43 AM
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12 Nov 12.. day ALPA Died?
So, anyone else think that ALPA is done at UCAL?
How does a National Union allow the largest Carrier in its organization to put out a TA that is substandard to Delta?
What ever happened to pattern bargaining?
What ever happened to fixing the wrongs of the previous contracts?
What ever happened to demanding 100% Full Retro?
Last night, I lost what little respect and faith I had for ALPA National, and for my own local Union.
Kudos to the 7 Reps (4 CAL, 3 UAL) who Voted NO.
They are the catalysis for our own, Independent Union.. in the Future.
Motch
CAL 756 FO, EWR
How does a National Union allow the largest Carrier in its organization to put out a TA that is substandard to Delta?
What ever happened to pattern bargaining?
What ever happened to fixing the wrongs of the previous contracts?
What ever happened to demanding 100% Full Retro?
Last night, I lost what little respect and faith I had for ALPA National, and for my own local Union.
Kudos to the 7 Reps (4 CAL, 3 UAL) who Voted NO.
They are the catalysis for our own, Independent Union.. in the Future.
Motch
CAL 756 FO, EWR
11-13-2012, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
So, anyone else think that ALPA is done at UCAL?
How does a National Union allow the largest Carrier in its organization to put out a TA that is substandard to Delta?
What ever happened to pattern bargaining?
What ever happened to fixing the wrongs of the previous contracts?
What ever happened to demanding 100% Full Retro?
Last night, I lost what little respect and faith I had for ALPA National, and for my own local Union.
Kudos to the 7 Reps (4 CAL, 3 UAL) who Voted NO.
They are the catalysis for our own, Independent Union.. in the Future.
Motch
CAL 756 FO, EWR
How does a National Union allow the largest Carrier in its organization to put out a TA that is substandard to Delta?
What ever happened to pattern bargaining?
What ever happened to fixing the wrongs of the previous contracts?
What ever happened to demanding 100% Full Retro?
Last night, I lost what little respect and faith I had for ALPA National, and for my own local Union.
Kudos to the 7 Reps (4 CAL, 3 UAL) who Voted NO.
They are the catalysis for our own, Independent Union.. in the Future.
Motch
CAL 756 FO, EWR
Agree this organization should be done, the only trouble is how weak the group is also.
11-13-2012, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
So, anyone else think that ALPA is done at UCAL?
How does a National Union allow the largest Carrier in its organization to put out a TA that is substandard to Delta?
What ever happened to pattern bargaining?
What ever happened to fixing the wrongs of the previous contracts?
What ever happened to demanding 100% Full Retro?
Last night, I lost what little respect and faith I had for ALPA National, and for my own local Union.
Kudos to the 7 Reps (4 CAL, 3 UAL) who Voted NO.
They are the catalysis for our own, Independent Union.. in the Future.
Motch
CAL 756 FO, EWR
How does a National Union allow the largest Carrier in its organization to put out a TA that is substandard to Delta?
What ever happened to pattern bargaining?
What ever happened to fixing the wrongs of the previous contracts?
What ever happened to demanding 100% Full Retro?
Last night, I lost what little respect and faith I had for ALPA National, and for my own local Union.
Kudos to the 7 Reps (4 CAL, 3 UAL) who Voted NO.
They are the catalysis for our own, Independent Union.. in the Future.
Motch
CAL 756 FO, EWR
11-13-2012, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
So, anyone else think that ALPA is done at UCAL?
How does a National Union allow the largest Carrier in its organization to put out a TA that is substandard to Delta?
What ever happened to pattern bargaining?
What ever happened to fixing the wrongs of the previous contracts?
What ever happened to demanding 100% Full Retro?
Last night, I lost what little respect and faith I had for ALPA National, and for my own local Union.
Kudos to the 7 Reps (4 CAL, 3 UAL) who Voted NO.
They are the catalysis for our own, Independent Union.. in the Future.
Motch
CAL 756 FO, EWR
How does a National Union allow the largest Carrier in its organization to put out a TA that is substandard to Delta?
What ever happened to pattern bargaining?
What ever happened to fixing the wrongs of the previous contracts?
What ever happened to demanding 100% Full Retro?
Last night, I lost what little respect and faith I had for ALPA National, and for my own local Union.
Kudos to the 7 Reps (4 CAL, 3 UAL) who Voted NO.
They are the catalysis for our own, Independent Union.. in the Future.
Motch
CAL 756 FO, EWR
11-13-2012, 09:34 AM
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What makes you think an independant will be any better?
Two things: Been there, done that. ALPA works better with an adverserial management.
In regards to an independant: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You will have the same people volunteering/running for office as with ALPA.
Good Luck!
Two things: Been there, done that. ALPA works better with an adverserial management.
In regards to an independant: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You will have the same people volunteering/running for office as with ALPA.
Good Luck!
11-13-2012, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCargo
What makes you think an independant will be any better?
Two things: Been there, done that. ALPA works better with an adverserial management.
In regards to an independant: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You will have the same people volunteering/running for office as with ALPA.
Two things: Been there, done that. ALPA works better with an adverserial management.
In regards to an independant: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You will have the same people volunteering/running for office as with ALPA.
Pilots can't just pay attention after a TA is published. The key step, if fact, is not electing schmucks in the first place. Once you elect fools how can one be surprised when they do something foolish?
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