Originally Posted by A320 (Post 1307683)

Thanks for not "Knocking" us. I'm sure you are going to be a delight to fly with.

Originally Posted by EWR73FO (Post 1307943)

As long as you don't touch none of my switches, I will be. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1307771)

I can certainly respect that. I don't think this is a homerun contract either. I just don't see us wringing enough out of it to justify the economic cost of sending it back. But your evaluation of that can be totally different than mine and be no less valid.

Feel exactly the same. My impression of the CAL guys/gals is that you are a good bunch of blokes/er....blokettes. One way or another, looking forward to us all being on the same page.

Originally Posted by FurloughedX2 (Post 1308923)

I have flown on both sides of this operation, and, for the most part we are all the same. Two great groups of people. This combined pilot group will be fine. We deserve better than this, but , unfortunately this management group is what it is, and this TA is what it is. That is the cruel irony in this industry........great people.....professional , loyal employees being pooped on constantly by poor management. Oh well, time to go get another brewski.

Originally Posted by FurloughedX2 (Post 1308923)

I have flown on both sides of this operation, and, for the most part we are all the same. Two great groups of people. This combined pilot group will be fine. We deserve better than this, but , unfortunately this management group is what it is, and this TA is what it is. That is the cruel irony in this industry........great people.....professional , loyal employees being pooped on constantly by poor management. Oh well, time to go get another brewski.

Originally Posted by FurloughedX2 (Post 1308923)

I have flown on both sides of this operation, and, for the most part we are all the same. Two great groups of people. This combined pilot group will be fine. We deserve better than this, but , unfortunately this management group is what it is, and this TA is what it is. That is the cruel irony in this industry........great people.....professional , loyal employees being pooped on constantly by poor management. Oh well, time to go get another brewski.

Originally Posted by FurloughedX2 (Post 1308923)

I have flown on both sides of this operation, and, for the most part we are all the same. Two great groups of people. This combined pilot group will be fine. We deserve better than this, but , unfortunately this management group is what it is, and this TA is what it is. That is the cruel irony in this industry........great people.....professional , loyal employees being pooped on constantly by poor management. Oh well, time to go get another brewski.

Originally Posted by Monkeyfly (Post 1304856)

I was dead set against this agreement, for all the reasons listed on this forum and more.

Until I went to a roadshow, talked to the reps, and got the story behind the story.

If you think this agreement is inferior to Delta's(like I do), here's why:

We are fighting ourselves(pilot groups), we are fighting ALPA nat'l(Lee Moak), and we are fighting the NMB(Linda Puchala); not to mention the managament of this airline. With odds like that, plus comparing our Mgt. to Delta Mgt., this could have been a lot worse.

This agreement is a major disappointment to me. However, if we want to get what we want we have to even out this fight, and the first step is to unify the pilot group. (Even though as a UA pilot in the bottom half of the list, I am none too excited about SLI).

All our political capital has been spent. Our retro was going to be $0.00 until we got political pressure put on Smisek. By our own analysis, our contract is worth more than Delta's overall; so who will help us now when we turn it down? Everyone who is supposed to be on our side in DC is patting themselves on the back for helping us get what they see as industry leading.

After this we are on our own. Best for the pilots to be finally on the same side.

Originally Posted by thor2j (Post 1305095)

They have stated many times that there will be no bumping, no flush bid. Only vacancies will filled. No one on either side is going to get kicked out of seat.

Both sides have also stated that there are multiple snap shots involved in the SLI process not just one.

Originally Posted by gofastmopar (Post 1309915)

Where is it written/posted/told that there are multiple snapshots?