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VOYAGER 14 12-12-2012 04:59 PM

Hey !! "you" NO voters. Don't "you" worry about a thing. The second Smisek finds out about your succesfull rejection of the TA, he will inmediately pull his pants down and give you all you want in a matter minutes or even maybe hours. Hey, after all, you have shown that little kitty and the whole world how tough and united you all are, and with the backing of ALPA, NMB, the White House, specially congress....piece of cake. Smisek is well aware of the kind of lawyers you guys are and there is nothing that scares him more than pilots that know the law.

One thing for sure !! you'll for ever be my heroes. Go show him !! Not a problem, you got this.

Sky Dreamer

EWR73FO 12-12-2012 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by VOYAGER 14 (Post 1310309)
Hey !! "you" NO voters. Don't "you" worry about a thing. The second Smisek finds out about your succesfull rejection of the TA, he will inmediately pull his pants down and give you all you want in a matter minutes or even maybe hours. Hey, after all, you have shown that little kitty and the whole world how tough and united you all are, and with the backing of ALPA, NMB, the White House, specially congress....piece of cake. Smisek is well aware of the kind of lawyers you guys are and there is nothing that scares him more than pilots that know the law.

One thing for sure !! you'll for ever be my heroes. Go show him !! Not a problem, you got this.

Sky Dreamer


Put down the keyboard and slowly back away man.

oldmako 12-12-2012 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by VOYAGER 14 (Post 1310309)
Hey !! "you" NO voters. Don't "you" worry about a thing. The second Smisek finds out about your succesfull rejection of the TA, he will inmediately pull his pants down and give you all you want in a matter minutes or even maybe hours. Hey, after all, you have shown that little kitty and the whole world how tough and united you all are, and with the backing of ALPA, NMB, the White House, specially congress....piece of cake. Smisek is well aware of the kind of lawyers you guys are and there is nothing that scares him more than pilots that know the law.

One thing for sure !! you'll for ever be my heroes. Go show him !! Not a problem, you got this.

Sky Dreamer

"One thing for sure", you're a tool.

Go away. And learn how to spell, or how to use your computers built in spell checker.

VOYAGER 14 12-12-2012 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1310324)
"One thing for sure", you're a tool.

Go away. And learn how to spell, or how to use your computers built in spell checker.

You couldn't be more right !! I'm a very bad speller and not too good with computer gizmos. It could be because I speak more than one language and I don't spend much time on the key board, sorry. Obviuosly the two of you are better men and way more intelligent dudes. Good for you !!

However, I'm a pilot just like the two of you, I hope you are, and all you have to say is "go away"......great example of "unity". Hey, at the end, the spelling is not going to matter on what kind of contract we all get.

Thanks for the advise, now I'm going away.

FurloughedX2 12-12-2012 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 1309049)
nice post..
But can I ask you a few questions- for everyone's benefit?

I take it you are now flying on the L-CAL Side? If so.. what do you think about how the Reserve/Work rules are and how the company interprets them? Been Double Pumped on Reserve?

What is your take with regards to LOA25? Having spoken to a UAL 2x Furlough (who is in that carve out group).. he is not happy.
He also told me about the Lawsuit and Law Firm. I think that will get interesting~

Thanks
Motch

Motch,
The current L-CAL reserve rules killed me when I was high mins and it was an under-staffed summer schedule! I called in fatigued, I called in sick......I am not a twenty something year old new hire. I know when I can safely fly and when I am being abused. After the fall schedule hit and I moved up a few numbers, it hasn't been too bad. If this TA passes, it should get a little better overall......

As for LOA 25, that is a highly charged, emotional topic. I see what the union was trying to do with it - get L-UAL junior furloughs up to a decent pay rate and thus inspire more of us to come back to work. However, for guys like me with 13+ years at this company, 5th year pay is not so exciting. From what I understand , after SLI, I may move up to 8th year pay , so , I got that going for me.......
I think the UAL guys are worried about being stapled, etc.
There is no easy answer to any of this that will make us all happy. Personally, I wish I was at the 12 year pay scale and I wouldn't mind however the SLI should play out. However, I have been through a lot in my career and have learned not to expect much. I was hoping for a good contract and to try to salvage the last years of my crappy career. I am just catching on to the lawsuit stuff, and yes. It could be very interesting!

oldmako 12-12-2012 06:59 PM

Voyeur 14,

Unity?


To review, you show up at the eleventh hour of a LONG debate and tell us what a bunch of idiots and girly men we are because we managed to find serious and concessionary faults in this agreement. And now after tossing your feces you want to crawl back into your hole with the excuse is that you're bilingual and just a stupid pilot? Using that logic I too am stupid because A) I speak jive and B) still work here. Good luck with that line of reasoning as most who toil here won't give you a free pass. We're all stupid to an extent and joined at the hip to UCH.

By any chance, are you related to Trip7?

VOYAGER 14 12-12-2012 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1310368)
Voyeur 14,

Unity?


To review, you show up at the eleventh hour of a LONG debate and tell us what a bunch of idiots and girly men we are because we managed to find serious and concessionary faults in this agreement. And now after tossing your feces you want to crawl back into your hole with the excuse is that you're bilingual and just a stupid pilot? Good luck with that line of reasoning.

By any chance, are you related to Trip7?

Didn't think about that, but you are right !! You are one idiot and girly man. BTW you didn't find anything and I am not bilingual, I speak four languages ( I know, your next insult is going to be that english is not one of them, so save it bud ).......how many do you speak ? or are you monolingual ? Back to my hole.

LAX Pilot 12-12-2012 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by FurloughedX2 (Post 1310364)
As for LOA 25, that is a highly charged, emotional topic. I see what the union was trying to do with it - get L-UAL junior furloughs up to a decent pay rate and thus inspire more of us to come back to work. However, for guys like me with 13+ years at this company, 5th year pay is not so exciting. From what I understand , after SLI, I may move up to 8th year pay , so , I got that going for me.......
I think the UAL guys are worried about being stapled, etc.
There is no easy answer to any of this that will make us all happy. Personally, I wish I was at the 12 year pay scale and I wouldn't mind however the SLI should play out. However, I have been through a lot in my career and have learned not to expect much. I was hoping for a good contract and to try to salvage the last years of my crappy career. I am just catching on to the lawsuit stuff, and yes. It could be very interesting!

When you came back from furlough #1 did you get any pay longevity restored?

What if there was no LOA 25? If it were just coming back to whatever the old pay longevity was, do you think these guys would sue to get the pay longevity restored?

So it seems that LOA 25 potentially ADDS to something that isn't currently guaranteed.

oldmako 12-12-2012 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by VOYAGER 14 (Post 1310374)
Didn't think about that, but you are right !! You are one idiot and girly man. BTW you didn't find anything and I am not bilingual, I speak four languages ( I know, your next insult is going to be that english is not one of them, so save it bud ).......how many do you speak ? or are you monolingual ? Back to my hole.


James is cunnilingual Sport!

But what does that have to do with this thread? Do you polish your knob with your multilingual abilities? Does speaking four languages somehow add weight to your opinion and discredit the sentiment of those who speak fewer? Will it prevent you from being junior manned, flying into your vacation, training on days off, keep you from having your seniority abrogated through PBS, having a shortened 2.5 hour call out on reserve, watching the routes you have flown for years go to a 76 seat RJ, keep your brothers hosed from LOA 25, stop pay banding, soothe your "free" three hour FSB after a DH home, put more actual retro into your retro, or put 16% into your retro etc etc etc?

jsled 12-13-2012 03:50 AM

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