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Old 12-15-2012 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
As much as others here believe lual parked almost 100 aircraft to do the same.
You and other CAL dudes will be bidding on those w/b aircraft (787s and A350s) in 2016 when they start coming. The new n/b are coming at 2 per month right now. Unfortunately, UAL guys cannot bid on them, unless they are furloughed from UAL, then they can bid them in UAL bases that some active UAL guys can't even hold. And we should shoot down this industry leading contract so we can delay the SLI even further?

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Old 12-15-2012 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
As much as others here believe lual parked almost 100 aircraft to do the same.
Growing a standalone airline's WB fleet 200% and trimming 95% of an airline's NB fleet via redundancy from a merger are two completely different animals. One is a pipe dream and the other is a nightmare reality from a common practice for companies seeking cost savings in mergers.

In summarizing: we are looking at a well know practice of merger redundancy versus your pipe dream that CAL was planning to somehow buy up a bunch of not for sale international WB routes and increase WB fleet 200%....ridiculous but obviously a weak SLI strategy.
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Old 12-15-2012 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisJT6
Growing a standalone airline's WB fleet 200% and trimming 95% of an airline's NB fleet via redundancy from a merger are two completely different animals. One is a pipe dream and the other is a nightmare reality from a common practice for companies seeking cost savings in mergers.

In summarizing: we are looking at a well know practice of merger redundancy versus your pipe dream that CAL was planning to somehow buy up a bunch of not for sale international WB routes and increase WB fleet 200%....ridiculous but obviously a weak SLI strategy.

CAL was and is still growing. No pipe dream there. Isn't that why most lual pilots voted yes? Narrowing your purchases to narrowbody aircraft to facilitate the redundancy you speak of....plausible and a reality. Look at how many narrowbody aircraft we have vs widebody. The fleet count speaks volumes.

The dream you speak and ridiculous argument you speak of is one of the worlds top three airlines supposedly shedding an entire fleet of aircraft, not for the the known and exorbitant cost of fuel or passenger demand, but to magically set up a merger more than two years down the road.

Who's smoking the unicorn horn now?
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Old 12-17-2012 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
The dream you speak and ridiculous argument you speak of is one of the worlds top three airlines supposedly shedding an entire fleet of aircraft, not for the the known and exorbitant cost of fuel or passenger demand, but to magically set up a merger more than two years down the road.

Who's smoking the unicorn horn now?

No unicorn, and it wasn't 2 years . . . it was right in the middle of the negotiations for the merger.

I honestly look forward to the day when all this is behind us and folks can stop being angry with each other over outcomes that they can't possibly change, BUT the 737 fleet went away in the fall of '09, roughly 6 months before the merger was announced. Do you honestly not believe that when one side in an airline merger discussion decides to park an entire fleet that that wasn't discussed during the merger talks?




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