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Old 12-13-2012 | 01:03 PM
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Just got back from the 12/13/2012 IAH roadshow at the airport Marriott.

A few scope questions, a few strategy questions, a few sincere thanks comments.

Just an unscientific wag based upon personal conversations, observation and questions but...50 to 60% in favor, 40 to 50% against.

Sparsely attended until the food showed up.
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Old 12-13-2012 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA
Just got back from the 12/13/2012 IAH roadshow at the airport Marriott.

A few scope questions, a few strategy questions, a few sincere thanks comments.

Just an unscientific wag based upon personal conversations, observation and questions but...50 to 60% in favor, 40 to 50% against.

Sparsely attended until the food showed up.
HA! Nothing like getting some food out to pick up the attendance!

Thanks for the update
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Old 12-13-2012 | 01:54 PM
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Any mention as to the strategy going forward should the T/A not ratify?
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Old 12-13-2012 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrsofked
Any mention as to the strategy going forward should the T/A not ratify?
The following is a quick summary of rudimentary notes I took regarding possibilities and forward strategy...

Pilot group polling, request the NMB re-engage the parties...did say the NMB views this TA as a fair, equitable agreement and would not be "happy" if ratification fails...NMB thinks in terms of "industry standard" regarding entire package, not individual issues..."leading" or "lagging" individual issues are irrelevant in the eyes of the NMB...minimum of 6 to 9 months just for re-engagement agreement without "icing"...sidebar discussion with JNC indicated NMB may "ice" to "let the pilots think about it for awhile"...if NMB "ices," probably 6 to 12 month timeframe...not a "snowball's chance in hell" of a release/cooling off/strike due to airline size (domestic market share)...release to a PEB a remote possibility only...resulting terms could be worse...while polling would show strong and weak issues, everything would technically be off the table if ratification fails...failed ratification "does not reset just the weak points"...NMB is sympathetic to UCH position that lower value AMR pilot agreement be included in any renegotiation (was not ratified at AIP point)...

There's a bunch more notes, but that's about all on possibilities and strategy that I can read from my scribbles.
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Old 12-13-2012 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA
The following is a quick summary of rudimentary notes I took regarding possibilities and forward strategy...

Pilot group polling, request the NMB re-engage the parties...did say the NMB views this TA as a fair, equitable agreement and would not be "happy" if ratification fails...NMB thinks in terms of "industry standard" regarding entire package, not individual issues..."leading" or "lagging" individual issues are irrelevant in the eyes of the NMB...minimum of 6 to 9 months just for re-engagement agreement without "icing"...sidebar discussion with JNC indicated NMB may "ice" to "let the pilots think about it for awhile"...if NMB "ices," probably 6 to 12 month timeframe...not a "snowball's chance in hell" of a release/cooling off/strike due to airline size (domestic market share)...release to a PEB a remote possibility only...resulting terms could be worse...while polling would show strong and weak issues, everything would technically be off the table if ratification fails...failed ratification "does not reset just the weak points"...NMB is sympathetic to UCH position that lower value AMR pilot agreement be included in any renegotiation (was not ratified at AIP point)...

There's a bunch more notes, but that's about all on possibilities and strategy that I can read from my scribbles.
Thank you sir..
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Old 12-13-2012 | 06:14 PM
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I guess the No Votes can relax
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Old 12-13-2012 | 07:17 PM
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"Free" food?

Nothing free pal...we paid for it with our dues!
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Old 12-13-2012 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett
"Free" food?

Nothing free pal...we paid for it with our dues!
Seriously.........we should be getting massages with a happy ending.
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Old 12-13-2012 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FurloughedX2
Seriously.........we should be getting massages with a happy ending.
Sonny is already ahead of you on this, why do you think he's always going to Bogota?
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Old 12-13-2012 | 07:52 PM
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Move along now, nothing to see here.
Just another "sales job" we can get more.
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