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Old 02-01-2013, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr View Post
Yup.

And in five years when that "stable" regional job is no longer stable because the feeder contract was underbid by another carrier and his current regional airline won a contract out of LGA the UAL job will look pretty good.

Of course, there will will have been 3000 pilots hired at UAL in the interim senior to him forever, presuming he can even get an interview.......
I have kind of been trying to point that out. Shoot he may well be a captain or a line holding wide body F/O in 5 years if things go like I think they will.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss View Post
I have kind of been trying to point that out. Shoot he may well be a captain or a line holding wide body F/O in 5 years if things go like I think they will.
No kidding. They just announced another monthly vacancy bid with a bunch more 747 FO openings plus 767 and A-320.

As the retirements keep happening its going to keep moving, so 5 year 747 co-pilot is completely possible.

With that question, moving forward are we going to do a monthly vacancy bid like now or adopt the CAL way and do them only twice a year?
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by The pilots wife View Post
Scoop...He isn't sure. Quality of Life is very important to him ie:...being able to coach soccer, having holidays off, driving to work, bidding for whatever days off he wants. Are you guys able to drop trips, trade trips and or pick up trips too? There is no question the pay is better, the benefits and retirement are better but the big question is really about QOL where he would be based and for how long? EWR at first...but how long would that last...with integration happening soon who knows if that will help or hurt his chances of moving to another base closer to home. What is life like when you commute to EWR and are on reserve? I can only imagine it would really suck and I'm not the one that would have to do it!!!
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr View Post
Yup.

And in five years when that "stable" regional job is no longer stable because the feeder contract was underbid by another carrier and his current regional airline won a contract out of LGA the UAL job will look pretty good.

Of course, there will will have been 3000 pilots hired at UAL in the interim senior to him forever, presuming he can even get an interview.......
Pilot's Wife, listen to what cadetdriver is saying. The security of your present quality of life is an illusion. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the story of guys passing up the majors for the exact reasons you've given only to have the rug pulled out from under them a few years later. An airline with the stature of UAL hasn't gone Chapter 7 since the Lorenzo days in the 80s and is ridiculously unlikely now. Two of the larger regionals have gone under in the last seven years. This isn't major airline pilot arrogance, it's just reality and I hate to see people make bad decisions when the choice is so black and white. You have the chance to get in on the front end of a hiring curve which may make the difference between furlough and upgrade and literally hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course of your career. Change is tough, but the choice is obvious to all.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot View Post
No kidding. They just announced another monthly vacancy bid with a bunch more 747 FO openings plus 767 and A-320.

As the retirements keep happening its going to keep moving, so 5 year 747 co-pilot is completely possible.

With that question, moving forward are we going to do a monthly vacancy bid like now or adopt the CAL way and do them only twice a year?
We will transition to the UA style vacancy bidding immediately after ISL
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:01 AM
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The three most important things in an airline pilot's life are :

1. SENIORITY
2. SENIORITY
3. SENIORITY

Just remember that ever day that goes by and someone else is hired, is another number you're BEHIND for the rest of your career. Only ONE number can cost you a lot of money over the longrun. I think you've made your decision (should be a joint one since you'll BOTH have to live with it), so go with it and don't look back. Hope to see your husband on line soon!
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot View Post
It's funny, you guys act like United has not furloughed anyone in the last decade... or twice furloughed.
You're right. He should stay where he's at and give the rest of us who would kill for that phone call the chance to go.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot View Post
As the retirements keep happening its going to keep moving, so 5 year 747 co-pilot is completely possible.
Didn't they hire directly into the 747 back in the 90's?
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Airway View Post
Didn't they hire directly into the 747 back in the 90's?
No. 747 FO HNL went unfilled, but they didn't pass that on to new hires. Only 767 FOs. They just kept rebidding it when widebodies went unfilled.
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot View Post
No kidding. They just announced another monthly vacancy bid with a bunch more 747 FO openings plus 767 and A-320.

As the retirements keep happening its going to keep moving, so 5 year 747 co-pilot is completely possible.

With that question, moving forward are we going to do a monthly vacancy bid like now or adopt the CAL way and do them only twice a year?
What, vacancies on the 747???? CAL guys better be able to bid on these!! They better not be awarded out of seniority!! This is going to wreak havoc on CAL pilot emotions if they can't bid it!

JP I'm sure is all over it.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by thor2j View Post
What, vacancies on the 747???? CAL guys better be able to bid on these!! They better not be awarded out of seniority!! This is going to wreak havoc on CAL pilot emotions if they can't bid it!

JP I'm sure is all over it.
Aren't you worried about not being able to bid the 320?
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