Never said it hurt me. The pay actuallyHELPED me (except now the ex gets more).?
Never said work rules were better at CAL. I was TRYING to say the work rules aren't much "better" than before, as you were trying to say. SPECIFICALLY, my days "OFF" aren't really "OFF" (unless they are immovable). I just get some add pay. I'd rather have the day off.
LOA 26: why do we have to wait for an SLI for some of the contract "better" points to be implemented? And some of the points in the contract don't have a specific timeline/ point to be implemented. It will be "figured out" by the JIT at some point...
76 scope: That's the point...we don't know the answer how that will work out,. Maybe before 10 years.... so why chance it?

These disputes have nothing to do with "announcing hiring". That's actually one of the bright spots we both agree on. These disputes have to do with trying to mix vastly different cultures and laying years of seniority on the line. As far as the carriers you mentioned, I would say SWA & Airtran would be as good an example as any of the culture shock of an airline merger. If I had to guess though I would say the coming AA/US/HP/TW tango is gonna make us look like BFF's over here. :)

Yeah, ours should be "easy" compared to that....

Oh, I don't know. Pilots can say some pretty dumb stuff in the cockpit. "What's it doing now?" comes to mind....not all rocket scientists.

Sorry, but you are incorrect, again.

The merger was announced May 3, 2010.

The original furlough notice letters were sent out on July 3, 2008 to approximately 500 L-CAL pilots. A combination of leaves and VRFs reduced the anticipated furlough number to 147 on the September 2008 System Bid. Furloughs started in October 2008 through the end of November 2008. L-CAL furloughed 147 pilots in the fall of 2008 NOT 2009.

A second round of potential furloughs was expected in fall of 2009 and another 310 letters were sent out July 21, 2009. However, as I said before, voluntary leaves (many of them extended military), early retirements and VRFs eliminated the need to furlough any more pilots than the original 147 who were furloughed in the fall of 2008.

Both times I participated in the Voluntary Reduced Flying offers the union and the company agreed to so I should know. In addition, during the summer of 2009 when I was doing recurrent ground school, the most junior active pilot on the seniority list (after the 147 were furloughed) was in my ground school class. Everyone to a man was glad he at least made the cutoff and he thanked those of us who were doing some type of VRF to help keep his job. Not only that but half my crash pad left the first week of October 2008 because they were being furloughed. It was not a happy time that month.

October 2008 to May 2010 = 18 months NOT 8 months. But you are right, the merger was announced May 3, 2010.

I'm not sure of the exact date, but I am sure United had a pretty big SCAB bid in 1985 or early 1986. Remember that too!

When we were DC-9 pilots transitioning into the brand-new MD-88, that question was neither dumb nor uncommon. :p

Nothing shuts a thread down quicker than reminding the blue side that they have scabs too.

Our UNforgiven.

There are those who have scabs that give them the respect they deserve, and then there are those who have scabs that have been systematically accepted along with their excuses.

Response?