Originally Posted by HSLD

Yes I'm a line pilot, qualified and current in my equipment who also volunteers to do union work. What a concept huh? You?

Originally Posted by Poppy

Is there fraud and waste? Absolutely! Is it the norm? NO!


Just keep in mind that every time that you or some other pilot attacks a union volunteer, you make is less likely that he/she will return. That is how you end up with guys who go to the dark side, and how you end up with perfectly qualified guys who just drop out. Then the less qualified hacks end up in important positions.

Originally Posted by Mwindaji

Is that why TS left? Yes most, the majority, are hard working good honest guys that work in our union, both paid and volunteers alike. I argue that if the union leadership turns a blind eye to fraud, waste and abuse that will be the most damaging thing to happen to our union.

Originally Posted by Mwindaji

Yes, I too am qualified in my equipment and have volunteered to do union work and will continue to do so. Not an unusual concept at all.
I just don't like kool-aide.

Originally Posted by HSLD

If you are plugged into ALPA work and understand how it works I can only guess that is a personal grudge? What's the kool-aide as it apply's to guys on full-time FPL while the contract is still being implemented? Was it OK during negotiations? The more you share, the more it sounds personal. Sour grapes?

Originally Posted by Poppy

The general tone of this thread is interesting, and spot-on for some of our union "volunteers." I could probably name two or three names right now, that in my opinion, are riding the clock as hard as they can, or spending so much time jockeying for position in the unified union that they get no constructive work done. However, and this is a big however, most of our volunteers, whether paid or unpaid, are working their buns off trying to make life better for their pilot group.

Interestingly, the company is probably a much better place to work. Just like on this forum, when someone posts an unpopular opinion, the keyboard kommandos come out en-masse to ridicule, belittle, and scorn.

I literally went to a cockpit when DHing one time to explain a CBA provision to a captain who had let me know through email that he was unhappy. I carefully explained that the CBA allowed the company to do exactly what it was doing, and I couldn't help him. His response to me was "If you can't get me what I want, you are worthless, and should resign!" You would be amazed at how often your committee members are abused this way. No wonder some of our brothers decide to quit union work, and still others to go to the other side.

I am anticipating a purge of the L-CAL committee members with SLI, and after serving on various committees for almost half of my career, I am kind of looking forward to NOT receiving midnight emails and texts from unhappy guys who don't like the CBA, and somehow believe it is my fault that the CBA says what is says. BTW, I have NEVER been involved with negotiating any CBA.

Originally Posted by HSLD

If you are plugged into ALPA work and understand how it works I can only guess that is a personal grudge? What's the kool-aide as it apply's to guys on full-time FPL while the contract is still being implemented? Was it OK during negotiations? The more you share, the more it sounds personal. Sour grapes?

Originally Posted by Mwindaji

Originally Posted by Mwindaji

IMO the Financial Oversight Committee was a good idea. Concerning waste and abuse- the more we are willing to accept this the more it will become the norm.

Originally Posted by gofastmopar

I salute you and your union brothers (and sisters) who do the heavy and sometimes unpopular work on behalf of the ignorant majority who always complain . I'm a P2P guy and don't see how you find the time to go beyond...