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untied 04-10-2013 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by 6blade (Post 1388637)
And you can say.... "I'm a UAL pilot... I lost my retirement, I lost my ESOP, might of lost my job once, even twice... lost my seat... lost a fleet, lost my golden special career but by golly I'm special, cuz I had 16 choices of a crew meal... I'm a LUAL pilot"

Pull the stick out of your A**

I remember looking at CAL back in the 1990's.

As a captain at the commuters, it was a step backwards.

Two BK's, scab culture, always the lowest paid with the worst contract.

I knew some guys that ended up there....but it was their last choice.

Now you want to feel superior.

Gimme a break, bud.

UAL sucks, but CAL is just as bad.

None of us are where we thought we'd be when we signed up for this career.

CALFO 04-10-2013 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1388424)
YEah...an error. That's the ticket. Or maybe that is what CAL pilots held in the August 2010 bid....which is AFTER the merger announcement. My perspective is neither interesting or relevant to YOU. Got it. As for my hobbies, evidently one of them is ****ing you off...hahaha. Lighten up Francis. I will bet you some good German beer that if you are one of those 05-08 CAL hires, you will be junior to me for the next 20 years! :cool: Enjoy.

SLedster

.....I'm ****ed off?.......

Sorry, not an 05-08 hire. At any rate, what I'm trying to explain to you is that whatever perspective you have as to how this integration should go down, it doesn't mean squat. All you are doing is fanning the flames and setting yourself up for (possibly) extreme disappointment.

The CAL pilots have a lot of perspective on this issue, as the top half of the CAL list is mainly comprised of pilots from several airlines that merged into CAL. There are still a few of the pilots from "back in the day" that feel they were screwed in the integration of CAL and still have an axe to grind. It's a complete waste of time.

Your best course of action right now is to:

1. Breathe
2. Try not to worry over it
3. When the integration is final, live with it and move on
4. Breathe

Combing the Flight Ops page seeking nuggets of info that you can use to prop-up your position serves no purpose. Let the MEC committees do their job. When the verdict is made, read the position report and accept it. The last thing anyone needs is another pilot "whining" about how they got screwed. It's irrelevant.

CALFO 04-10-2013 07:18 PM

Oh, and the reason I question bid 12-03 is because the effective date of that bid would have been March, 2012. That typically means that the bid would have been published in March, 2011. That is why it doesn't make sense.

Poppy 04-11-2013 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1388731)
.....I'm ****ed off?.......

Sorry, not an 05-08 hire. At any rate, what I'm trying to explain to you is that whatever perspective you have as to how this integration should go down, it doesn't mean squat. All you are doing is fanning the flames and setting yourself up for (possibly) extreme disappointment.

The CAL pilots have a lot of perspective on this issue, as the top half of the CAL list is mainly comprised of pilots from several airlines that merged into CAL. There are still a few of the pilots from "back in the day" that feel they were screwed in the integration of CAL and still have an axe to grind. It's a complete waste of time.

Your best course of action right now is to:

1. Breathe
2. Try not to worry over it
3. When the integration is final, live with it and move on
4. Breathe

Combing the Flight Ops page seeking nuggets of info that you can use to prop-up your position serves no purpose. Let the MEC committees do their job. When the verdict is made, read the position report and accept it. The last thing anyone needs is another pilot "whining" about how they got screwed. It's irrelevant.

Well said!

jsled 04-11-2013 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1388735)
Oh, and the reason I question bid 12-03 is because the effective date of that bid would have been March, 2012. That typically means that the bid would have been published in March, 2011. That is why it doesn't make sense.

The bid results were published in Sept 2010. Whether that makes sense to you or not is irrelevant. The results are archived under sCO Staffing on the Flying Together website.

Sled

6blade 04-11-2013 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 1388833)
The bid results were published in Sept 2010. Whether that makes sense to you or not is irrelevant. The results are archived under sCO Staffing on the Flying Together website.

Sled

Wrong...wrong, wrong !!!!!!

The 12 in the bid means 2012. So we don't publish bids in 2010 that are meant for 2012... but hey your a rocket scientist and brain surgeon at UAL... sorry you are right.

Once again, if you have a UAL question ask a UAL pilot and if you have a CAL question, ask a CAL pilot.

Staller 04-11-2013 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by 6blade (Post 1388861)
Wrong...wrong, wrong !!!!!!

The 12 in the bid means 2012. So we don't publish bids in 2010 that are meant for 2012... but hey your a rocket scientist and brain surgeon at UAL... sorry you are right.

Once again, if you have a UAL question ask a UAL pilot and if you have a CAL question, ask a CAL pilot.

Couldn't keep you head in the sand could you. You never ask a cal pilot a question because he doesn't know the answer and will lie. Still licking that stick are you?

routemap 04-11-2013 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Staller (Post 1388870)
Couldn't keep you head in the sand could you. You never ask a cal pilot a question because he doesn't know the answer and will lie. Still licking that stick are you?


Well, you are right about that. I don't know the answer and I lie.
Lets add to your list, I am also an idiot for not applying to the best airline in the universe, United. What was I thinking? According to your PERSPECTIVE I am doomed.

Here is my perspective, STALLER, LAX PILOT, and JSLED are very afraid of the arbitration award.

Some of these threads had really good SLI arguments, this one is just stupid, and feels a little desperate.

jsled 04-11-2013 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1388731)
.....I'm ****ed off?.......

Sorry, not an 05-08 hire. At any rate, what I'm trying to explain to you is that whatever perspective you have as to how this integration should go down, it doesn't mean squat. All you are doing is fanning the flames and setting yourself up for (possibly) extreme disappointment.

The CAL pilots have a lot of perspective on this issue, as the top half of the CAL list is mainly comprised of pilots from several airlines that merged into CAL. There are still a few of the pilots from "back in the day" that feel they were screwed in the integration of CAL and still have an axe to grind. It's a complete waste of time.

Your best course of action right now is to:

1. Breathe
2. Try not to worry over it
3. When the integration is final, live with it and move on
4. Breathe

Combing the Flight Ops page seeking nuggets of info that you can use to prop-up your position serves no purpose. Let the MEC committees do their job. When the verdict is made, read the position report and accept it. The last thing anyone needs is another pilot "whining" about how they got screwed. It's irrelevant.


Gee dad, can't I play just a while longer? I breathe just fine, and its a long flight from Iah to Eze, Gru, and Lhr. The company gave me this cool iPad. I download past SLI awards, seniority lists, scab lists, vacancy bids, crews news, etc. for my viewing pleasure. Looked up an ex classmate just the other day. He left college to scab at Eastern in '90. Of course he ended up at CAL. He must feel right at home. ;)

Sled

Mwindaji 04-11-2013 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by routemap (Post 1388887)

Here is my perspective, STALLER, LAX PILOT, and JSLED are very afraid of the arbitration award.

Some of these threads had really good SLI arguments, this one is just stupid, and feels a little desperate.

.....Agree.....


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