Furloughed = "robust career expectations"?
04-15-2013, 07:58 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by El Gwopo
All of MY squealing? Good lord. If that happened, he was PERFECTLY safe with airline pilots approaching.
What is this -- 5th Grade? I bet it was easier to play scared than to verbally defend his actions. He's a weak dick chump.
04-15-2013, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05
Really? If a laid off pilot has robust career expectations then an active pilot must have super duper robust career expectations!
04-15-2013, 11:41 AM
#103
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Originally Posted by Pilotbiffster
The error in your logic is you fail to understand the term expectations. Expectations implies the future, from merger date until the year you turn age 65. Based soley on retirements, over half of those United furloughees had the career EXPECTATION of being recalled and flying from the left seat of a widebody. Since Continental hardly has ANY widebodies, very few of their pilots their can expect to actually fly them from the left seat. So, to answer your question, yes, the pilots on furlough in 2010 at the time of the merger had very robust career EXPECTATIONS.
"The effect of this merger, no matter how the seniority lists are integrated, is to improve dramatically Continental pilots’ career expectations with regard to jumbo and widebody flying and, correspondingly, to reduce those of United pilots."
So basically what they are saying is that no matter where the CAL pilots are placed they are going to do better because they have access to the 100+ widebody aircraft they didn't have access to as well as the 78 Jumbo aircraft they didn't have access to.
So, yes, a furloughed pilot (who is being recalled right now and would have NEVER been recalled if not for "right-sizing" for the merger) has a robust career expectation.
04-15-2013, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
What was interesting was something in the UAL opening brief....
"The effect of this merger, no matter how the seniority lists are integrated, is to improve dramatically Continental pilots’ career expectations with regard to jumbo and widebody flying and, correspondingly, to reduce those of United pilots."
So basically what they are saying is that no matter where the CAL pilots are placed they are going to do better because they have access to the 100+ widebody aircraft they didn't have access to as well as the 78 Jumbo aircraft they didn't have access to.
So, yes, a furloughed pilot (who is being recalled right now and would have NEVER been recalled if not for "right-sizing" for the merger) has a robust career expectation.
"The effect of this merger, no matter how the seniority lists are integrated, is to improve dramatically Continental pilots’ career expectations with regard to jumbo and widebody flying and, correspondingly, to reduce those of United pilots."
So basically what they are saying is that no matter where the CAL pilots are placed they are going to do better because they have access to the 100+ widebody aircraft they didn't have access to as well as the 78 Jumbo aircraft they didn't have access to.
So, yes, a furloughed pilot (who is being recalled right now and would have NEVER been recalled if not for "right-sizing" for the merger) has a robust career expectation.
04-15-2013, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin
Furloughed pilots are not employees of the airline. Don't let your rationalizing get in the way of reality. I bet that is what the Senator told your boys at the little meet and greet too, lol.
04-15-2013, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin
Furloughed pilots are not employees of the airline. Don't let your rationalizing get in the way of reality. I bet that is what the Senator told your boys at the little meet and greet too, lol.
04-15-2013, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin
Furloughed pilots are not employees of the airline. Don't let your rationalizing get in the way of reality. I bet that is what the Senator told your boys at the little meet and greet too, lol.
So seems like I was treated as an employee without having to do that work thing you all ***** about.
04-15-2013, 01:59 PM
#108
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Originally Posted by CHAIRMAN
Funny I had pass travel and bumped active employees hired after me.
So seems like I was treated as an employee without having to do that work thing you all ***** about.
So seems like I was treated as an employee without having to do that work thing you all ***** about.
04-15-2013, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedtape
And now you think you're gonna stroll right in and take the left seat from a CAL guy without having to do that work thing .
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