flybynuts

The 777 move was planned and announced about two months ago. There was a feasibility study performed to determine what to do about the having both training locations. The panel decided to move the 756 and 777 to TK. IAH will be a 737 and 787 training location and TK all else. Howard announcing that we are going to one location was a bit premature since it will be several years before this can occur. IAH is getting another 737 sim in 3rd quarter but when they go to one location, I think TK will be the spot. There has been drawings and plans to expand IAH and even take over the Expressjet building but I think that it was just looking at IAH and the associated costs to convert it to a TK like space and sell TK. The land around TK is going up in value but I am not sure if it will be worth enough to make a lot to go with this Plan B.

EWRflyr

Howard didn't announce we were going to one training center "prematurely." At the Flight Operations Leadership tour thing, he said they had started the process of evaluating the future of dual training centers with the reality being that one will eventually close. He specifically said we are in the "very early stages" of studying this and any decision or move will not be happening soon. With another 737 NG simulator coming online in 2014 (in the place of the 777 simulator being moved to DENTC), this shows the IAHTC will be around for a couple of years, at least.

Flyguppy

FWIW, I was told by an instructor at TK today that the land on which TK sits is owned by the city of Denver. It is not ours to sell. It is leased to is for next to nothing.

The land was all part of Stapleton, so the city owning it makes sense.

We attempted to sell the facility in the past, but there were no takers.

LeeMat

Might be the case today not sure, but in the BK exit agreement, the IAM had liens on DENTK, Elk Grove EXO realestate and building structures. Something to due with collateral for their terminated pensions. They did not get BOND payout like the pilots did. United own the land at that time. Not sure if that is still the case.

flybynuts

It is my opinion he did. There are more important topics he needs to focus on ad did talk about some, than a single training center. I believe he should say how he is focusing on our degraded operations and relationships with other co-workers and what is the critical items to him. Again he wasn't bad I just though is was a bit of a waste to discuss it now. My opinion.

flybynuts

When I was in Denver a few weeks ago, it was explained to me that the property was still UAL. Maybe it was building or both land and building but wasn't mentioned that it was building only. We were discussing the failed attempt to sale the building and the economy and the price was pretty high.