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Old 07-08-2013 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
Not trying to deflect anything thing SPECIAL. You don't need to convince me of anything. Your not happy cause it didn't go your way. Thats my opinion. Mitch hit the nail on the head in a earlier post. If you don't need to convince me whats with all the "last three years stuff?" Looks like your problems have been brewing much longer than that. Or is it you were very happy the last 7 years before that with your MEC? What occurred was we didn't roll over to the all Great United MEC and you and many others take exception to that, Which I think your prejudice and your not happy and never will be that I am convinced of. I guess we all look at events differently.
We will look at things differently and I'm afraid we will pay the price for years if not decades to come.
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Old 07-08-2013 | 06:12 AM
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Don't like pay banding? Take it up with Glenn.
Taxied past a parked 767-300 with sparky parked on the other side. Funny thing, couldn't see sparky because the 767 overshadowed it.
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Old 07-08-2013 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Taxied past a parked 767-300 with sparky parked on the other side. Funny thing, couldn't see sparky because the 767 overshadowed it.

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Old 07-08-2013 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Taxied past a parked 767-300 with sparky parked on the other side. Funny thing, couldn't see sparky because the 767 overshadowed it.
And your point?
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Old 07-08-2013 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
And your point?
The current pay banding scheme is a joke.
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Old 07-08-2013 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by larryiah
For a pacifist, no.
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Old 07-08-2013 | 06:46 AM
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So we have different views again. Hence a joke cause it's not you want? You proved Mitch right. Thanks Special.... Fill a 767 with people and gas and a 787 the same way and point them over the pacific . I wonder who'd be in life rafts first? With no mechanicals of course ... Looks like your ego and prejudice would put a 747 in the shadows never mind a 767....Which airplane is better? Who really cares...
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Old 07-08-2013 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
We will look at things differently and I'm afraid we will pay the price for years if not decades to come.
This is not inevitable ... neither MEC operated in a vacuum ... BOTH sides are to blame for the lost time and possible gains, PERIOD. Post SLI, post ONE MEC, it will be our actions together that sow the seeds of gains or despair.

L-UAL brought many equities to the table, and amongst them was no protections to your flying in a merger, and 1437 unemployed pilots ... In my humble opinion, these two "equities" are the biggest reasons why we are where we are today, and will be the biggest two drivers in the arbitrators' award.
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Old 07-08-2013 | 07:16 AM
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A C130 hauling trash is still bigger than an F16.
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Old 07-08-2013 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SEDPA
This is not inevitable ... neither MEC operated in a vacuum ... BOTH sides are to blame for the lost time and possible gains, PERIOD. Post SLI, post ONE MEC, it will be our actions together that sow the seeds of gains or despair.

L-UAL brought many equities to the table, and amongst them was no protections to your flying in a merger, and 1437 unemployed pilots ... In my humble opinion, these two "equities" are the biggest reasons why we are where we are today, and will be the biggest two drivers in the arbitrators' award.
Total BS. UAL MEC didn't pout like a kid and say they wouldn't negotiate unless the other side agreed to their idiotic pay banding scheme. Sad part is if it doesn't help the CAL side with their SLI Ike they hoped we now get to get paid Narrowbody pay for flying a 757 and small wide body pay for flying a 747 and 777.

Fortunately the arbitrators have already indicated they'll use longevity as a major factor because that's the only evidence they went out and got on their own. They had to write a letter to management asking for accurate CAL mainline hiring dates and furlough and recall dates because the CAL side refused to provide it. Much like the CAL JCBA stall tactics. Oce they got that, they decided they didn't
Need the last two days of surrebuttals and the CAL side flipped out!

So I guess we will see.
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