You're (Still) Being Bumped By UAX
08-16-2013 | 09:14 PM
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From: Fifi
That is correct. It's not just for bumps. It's anytime the reservation is made that way. The solution is going to be to fix the programming, or force Express folks to only list 1 way. Somehow, I'm guessing that is what most Express employees do when it works against them.
I'm going to explore the following, since clearly the company has no interest in fixing the problem. Next time I see an SA0X on the list, I'm using a vacation pass to ensure that I'm ahead of them. Then I'm going to file a grievance to get my vacation pass back. It's the only way that I can assure I'm getting my rightful place ahead of United Express employees.
To the express folks... How well is this glitch known? Has the word been spread at your carriers?
I'm going to explore the following, since clearly the company has no interest in fixing the problem. Next time I see an SA0X on the list, I'm using a vacation pass to ensure that I'm ahead of them. Then I'm going to file a grievance to get my vacation pass back. It's the only way that I can assure I'm getting my rightful place ahead of United Express employees.
To the express folks... How well is this glitch known? Has the word been spread at your carriers?
08-16-2013 | 09:50 PM
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08-17-2013 | 09:50 AM
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Yeah, I had no idea. Until now. Thanks for sharing gettinbumped.. lol..
I have never witnessed a sa5x get put in front of anyone of higher priority, but it is also very rare for a express flight to be flown by mainline metal. As far as I've known there is a boarding hiarchy in place that has been working as designed. Even though I fly under your umbrella/colors I know I will be dead last on the list. It is what it is . I hold a teeny tiny bit better boarding priority on UA as I would on swa or aa or dl. My 30+ vacation passes that I had rightfully earned were taken from me and everyone else a couple of years ago as well ,with a weeks notice to use them. At least you can use one of those to help you get better boarding priority when your fellow sa1 or SA 2 pull one out.
Now I gotta go spread the news!
08-17-2013 | 09:59 AM
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Yeah, I had no idea. Until now. Thanks for sharing gettinbumped.. lol..
I have never witnessed a sa5x get put in front of anyone of higher priority, but it is also very rare for a express flight to be flown by mainline metal. As far as I've known there is a boarding hiarchy in place that has been working as designed. Even though I fly under your umbrella/colors I know I will be dead last on the list. It is what it is . I hold a teeny tiny bit better boarding priority on UA as I would on swa or aa or dl. My 30+ vacation passes that I had rightfully earned were taken from me and everyone else a couple of years ago as well ,with a weeks notice to use them. At least you can use one of those to help you get better boarding priority when your fellow sa1 or SA 2 pull one out.
Now I gotta go spread the news!
I have never witnessed a sa5x get put in front of anyone of higher priority, but it is also very rare for a express flight to be flown by mainline metal. As far as I've known there is a boarding hiarchy in place that has been working as designed. Even though I fly under your umbrella/colors I know I will be dead last on the list. It is what it is . I hold a teeny tiny bit better boarding priority on UA as I would on swa or aa or dl. My 30+ vacation passes that I had rightfully earned were taken from me and everyone else a couple of years ago as well ,with a weeks notice to use them. At least you can use one of those to help you get better boarding priority when your fellow sa1 or SA 2 pull one out.
Now I gotta go spread the news!
08-17-2013 | 10:12 AM
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I seen this f/a with a 1969 board date, on a flt with 40 open seats. List with a Vpass and the jumpseat. 1969. she's #1 on the nr list.. why waste the v-pass? she does this often. Is she shooting for 1st?
you guys have employees that have been here a looong time...
you guys have employees that have been here a looong time...
08-17-2013 | 10:30 AM
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The "vacation pass" concept is a joke. It's turned pass-riding into gamesmanship.
08-17-2013 | 12:23 PM
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I've actually had a bunch people tell me they intentionally list as a vacation pass to stop other people from trying to list then before the flight when they know they are going to get on they switch to regular pass.
Where did this come from anyway?
08-17-2013 | 02:30 PM
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It also allows everyone including relative new hires to ride in Business or Global First for $0. I'm sure that's not a big deal to JUMBO pilot like you, but when I was making 25K at Express that sure helped. Over the years, my wife and I have traveled a lot of the world in comfort thanks to the vacation pass program. Sorry it doesn't work for you in your life Staller.
08-17-2013 | 03:14 PM
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