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Old 09-03-2013 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Probe
I agree your side was represented in an extremely poor manner.
It was a fait accompli once the merger policy was changed. There was no foundation for an argument. No more "no windfall" so UAL reserve 320 FOs become captains. "Longevity" gave status to furloughs. As I said, brilliant to change merger policy 5 years ago.
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Old 09-04-2013 | 12:44 AM
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I read the decision tonight. Part of me suspects that ALPA national got involved with the arbitrators in terms of influencing things to the extent that the chance of decertification was minimized.

That said?

It's done. Who cares? I had zero input and power. My NC picked the absolute wrong strategy, which I find....hilarious. All these folks seriously intoning how "We have Brucia!"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Too funny.

I am very gald the arbitrators attempted to produce a list that they considered fair. They should be thanked for their hard work. As a pilot who was one system bid away from the left seat, I guess I should jump up and down and whine and moan.

But to do so surrenders control of the one card I have to play.

MY ATTITUDE.

I get to choose how I react. Not ALPA, not the arbitrators, ME.

And I still love my job very much. I cannot wait to get to fly new airplanes with new friends and new bases. I cannot wait to move forward as one united pilot group. And I eagerly dream of us building our own non-ALPA union - together - that protects OUR interests as United Airlines pilots.

And I really can't wait to kick Delta's ass.

So, to recap? Quit your gloating. Quit your britching. Put on your big boy pants and let's get to work!
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Old 09-04-2013 | 12:49 AM
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One more thing I look forward to at United Airlines:

New senior management.

Greg Brenneman, anybody?
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Old 09-04-2013 | 01:24 AM
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Still trying to understand the fences and conditions. As a furloughee, this one is really bothersome. Oh well, I don't have to come back until 2018.

7. Until the first bid period 5 years following the implementation of the ISL,premerger UAL pilots involuntarily furloughed as of Oct 1, 2010 shall be subject to furlough (in their reverse seniority order) prior to the furlough of any premerger CAL pilot.
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Old 09-04-2013 | 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CAL 73
Furloughed pilots ahead of active pilots?? How is that fair??

ohh..let me guess..to rightsize for CAL merger. Right


I truly hope this place burns to the ground and UAL dies like it should have years ago. And yes, i do fly here.
Yikes, somebody peed in his cheerios
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Old 09-04-2013 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
It was a fait accompli once the merger policy was changed. There was no foundation for an argument. No more "no windfall" so UAL reserve 320 FOs become captains. "Longevity" gave status to furloughs. As I said, brilliant to change merger policy 5 years ago.
Can someone expound on this change? What were the details
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Old 09-04-2013 | 03:48 AM
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i have almost 700 non-working pilots in front of me now. I was never on furlough. Does that qualify as having your Cheerios peed in?
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Old 09-04-2013 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CAL 73
Furloughed pilots ahead of active pilots?? How is that fair??

ohh..let me guess..to rightsize for CAL merger. Right


I truly hope this place burns to the ground and UAL dies like it should have years ago. And yes, i do fly here.
Relax Homie. It's just the reality of LONGEVITY messing with ya. Do you smell it? It smells like VICTORY. Hu-ahhhhh

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Old 09-04-2013 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SlickMachine
i have almost 700 non-working pilots in front of me now. I was never on furlough. Does that qualify as having your Cheerios peed in?
They will all be recalled soon according to the Company. Then they will be working pilots. Problem solved.

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Old 09-04-2013 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SlickMachine
i have almost 700 non-working pilots in front of me now. I was never on furlough. Does that qualify as having your Cheerios peed in?
Have any of these pilots worked fewer years prior to furlough than what you have?
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