Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1477779)

Perhaps you might try to alter your perspective a bit and see if it helps you accept the award a little more easily. As 2010 was ALWAYS going to be the snapshot date, you've had a nice 3 year windfall of better bids, vacation, time off, and schedules than you would have if the list went like DAL's and was settled in 2010. This is something the LUAL pilots did not get to enjoy. We are now back to the neutrals decision for what was fair and equitable in 2010 and we move forward from here without being able to recoup anything from that 3 year period. It is simply a leveling of the playing field, with no restitution for 3 years lost time. And I'm fine with that. But methinks you might be protesting too much. Kudos to the LCAL pilots who didn't buy off on Katz's pipe dream and thus see the more realistic picture

Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1477779)

Your post illustrates what I consider to be the BIGGEST failure of Katz. I won't say "mistake" because he knew what he was doing. So I consider it an intentional failure. I said this a few months ago and it still holds true. When Katz asked for the April 2013 snapshot, he did us ALL a terrible disservice. The snapshot date was never going to be in 2013. It was always going to be 2010 if you have done ANY research on airline mergers. Katz knew it. And frankly, you didn't WANT it to be 2013, because that just encourages one side to delay delay and delay the JCBA and SLI to take advantage of management whipsawing one group agains the other. Unfortunately this seemed to be LCAL's tactic. Trouble is, some on the LCAL side bought into Katz's position and think that a 2013 snapshot is "fair", hence they got screwed by 15-20%. If you thought this, you really should have spent more time studying how these awards go and steeled yourself that 2013 was NEVER a realistic positibility. By selling that date to you, Katz has bred a huge amount of angst and discontent which serves none of us.

Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 1477950)

Katz is not a stupid man and lawyers don't make decisions like that on their own. Why do you assume that he wasn't just doing the bidding of his clients, pursuing the will of the MEC or negotiating Committee?

Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1477955)

Because he employs the same strategy every single time. And loses. He puts forth the most extreme position he can come up with. But you are correct that the LCAL MC and Merger Committee deserve as much blame for this false expectation because they signed off on the strategy

Originally Posted by Lerxst (Post 1477961)

The LCAL MC is supposedly writing a white paper detailing, well, I don't really know what. But I'm sure it's gonna be good whatever it is.

Originally Posted by Lerxst (Post 1477961)

The LCAL MC is supposedly writing a white paper detailing, well, I don't really know what. But I'm sure it's gonna be good whatever it is.

Originally Posted by JohnHale (Post 1477978)

Not trying to start anything, but has the CAL MEC NOT come out with a Letter or a Video or even a Blastmail to explain the SLI yet?

Originally Posted by beeker (Post 1477921)

With the idea that sUAL guys the first to get furloughed, out of seniority, furlough protection. I see a future grievance with that.