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Old 12-06-2013 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Cal doesn't have a monopoly on that market. You ever seen the dude who essentially lives in the basement at Dulles?
Do tell......

Oh yeah JB pilots have embroidered wings... another class act.
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Old 12-06-2013 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Snarge
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Oh yeah JB pilots have embroidered wings... another class act.
All the Military services have embroidered wings! And even better they are velcro!!! Maybe they are onto something. In the civilian world you could have velcro wings and then if furloughed/fired/or quit the you could just take off one pair of wings and stick on the others!!
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Old 12-06-2013 | 06:48 AM
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All this chitter chatter chitter chatter,
I think Snoop has a nice uniform, perhaps we ought to accessorize?

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Old 12-06-2013 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
All this chitter chatter chitter chatter,
I think Snoop has a nice uniform, perhaps we ought to accessorize?

Fo' shizzle, my nizzle.


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speaking. Welcome aboard NWA flight 069 from the 310 to the 212.
Its time to bust this coney yall. In a hot second, Ill be
hittin them switches and gettin this b**ch pumpin and jumpin.
So screw your sh*t on tight and enjoy the flight."
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Old 12-06-2013 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Snarge
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Oh yeah JB pilots have embroidered wings... another class act.
Wadr, we are concerned about embroidered wings?
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Old 12-06-2013 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
I agree. I think the double breasted suit was a way to force a non-sloppy look. It creates a professional consistency across the pilot group. For the pilots though it looks like it's more trouble and less comfortable. No worries. Leather jackets work fine.
Sorta kinda true.

NWA had a optional hat and leather jacket. The "offical" leather jacket was a really nice Gibson and Banres black jacket, with NO stupid patches for name tags or wings or anything else that makes you look like a twink. It looked like just a plain jacket, and the epaulettes velcroed on the tabs. It took about 5 seconds to go from work to street, and it was awesomely warm and could be wiped clean with a damp cloth. Folded up, it also make a tolerable pillow for that commute home. It did come with some pretty complex embroidery on the INSIDE (company logo on the back, and your name), so it was kind of unique.

Of course, it was expensive (~$450) and no rule is so lax that it can't be abused and so the Indian knock-offs soon appeared, and they looked, IMHO, awful.

Anyway, in comparison, the Delta double breasted thing takes two hands to button, so you have to put down whatever it is your carrying. Some guys did the "Velcro trick". Depending on the vendor it can be really hot, but worthless in the cold, if that's possible. For cold climates, you need an overcoat.

The only good news is the "mandatory" jacket wear is actually a very small part of the year. Hats are mandatory year round, and you always have to wear your "flair" (wings & name tag), either on your jacket or shirt.

FWIW, the company bought back all of the "official" leather jackets at the street price since we couldn't wear them any longer. Lots of people kept theirs. The guys with the knock offs were stuck with theirs.

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Old 12-06-2013 | 10:59 AM
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Thanks for the background info.
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Old 12-12-2013 | 03:25 PM
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"Due to the fact that some pilots have not received their new hats and the hat badge does not fit properly on some hats, the company has indicated that they will not enforce the hat policy until the vendor issues are resolved. Do not expect the company to put this in writing."
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Old 12-12-2013 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by APC225
"Due to the fact that some pilots have not received their new hats and the hat badge does not fit properly on some hats, the company has indicated that they will not enforce the hat policy until the vendor issues are resolved. Do not expect the company to put this in writing."
How exactly do they expect to enforce this policy? If they are going to remove pilots from trips then about 65% of the pilots have already shown they aren't going to wear the hat. There are going to be a lot of canceled flights in 2014.
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Old 12-12-2013 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer
How exactly do they expect to enforce this policy? If they are going to remove pilots from trips then about 65% of the pilots have already shown they aren't going to wear the hat. There are going to be a lot of canceled flights in 2014.
I think there're trying to find a way out of that bind and this is the start. Hats required but not enforced until April 15 at which point they're not FOM required at all until October 15 at which point they'll become FOM optional.
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