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clubord 01-26-2014 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Dwane (Post 1566650)
Does the new trip trading system recognize "bad day/worse day" trip trade scenarios? I'm trying to slide my 4-day trip by two days and trade into a trip that would have me working over a weekend. Since I can't see the coverage, I'm only guessing it's worse over the weekend.
If I can't trade it via the automated system, can scheduling still assist with these "bad day/worse day" trades?
Thanks for any info!

Nope, that's gone! That was such a great feature about our other system, really helped me improve my line every month.

XHooker 01-26-2014 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by beeker (Post 1547458)
trading doesn't start until 1105 on the 31st. If you have a trip on the 30th there is no option to trade. oh look at that, the only trip I want to try and trade I can't, great.


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1547463)
Welcome to CAL.

While far from perfect, under the old CAL system Beeker would have gotten his trade. You're wrong (again), but at least you're consistent. Hopefully this system will improve to the point where the implementation meets the intent, but for now it's sorely lacking.

pilot64golfer 01-26-2014 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by XHooker (Post 1567153)
While far from perfect, under the old CAL system Beeker would have gotten his trade. You're wrong (again), but at least you're consistent. Hopefully this system will improve to the point where the implementation meets the intent, but for now it's sorely lacking.

Having now used the trip trade system under both systems, the current one is far worse than the old one. Never had this many problems before with trading.

You may be right that it worked at standalone CAL but now its all Jeffed up.

XHooker 01-26-2014 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1567187)
Having now used the trip trade system under both systems, the current one is far worse than the old one. Never had this many problems before with trading.

You may be right that it worked at standalone CAL but now its all Jeffed up.

This system is far different from what existed at CAL and is, by my understanding, closer to what existed at LUAL. In any event, it matters not because it is, as you said "all Jeffed up."

LeeFXDWG 01-26-2014 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by XHooker (Post 1567229)
This system is far different from what existed at CAL and is, by my understanding, closer to what existed at LUAL. In any event, it matters not because it is, as you said "all Jeffed up."

I have used both systems and preferred the CAL trip trade system. Same goes for the vacation bidding process LCAL folks had. You are going to get to play with the new system here in a few days.

Given the new forfeiture rules on vacation, I'd ensure I put my intent to bid all days in the primary bid when it opens. That option won't be available in the secondary/tertiary bids when they happen. FWIW.


Cheers,
Lee

pilot64golfer 01-26-2014 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by XHooker (Post 1567229)
This system is far different from what existed at CAL and is, by my understanding, closer to what existed at LUAL. In any event, it matters not because it is, as you said "all Jeffed up."

It looks the same (i.e. has the same interface) but starting with the CCS transition it works MUCH different. I'm sure it's different for LCAL as well.

David Watts 01-28-2014 07:08 AM

What does "Potential Open" trip mean? Is it the same as an advertised trip under the CAL system? If I want to drop a trip and it is a potential open trip can someone pick it up or can I pick up a potential open trip?

Thanks

JoePatroni 01-28-2014 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by David Watts (Post 1568554)
What does "Potential Open" trip mean? Is it the same as an advertised trip under the CAL system? If I want to drop a trip and it is a potential open trip can someone pick it up or can I pick up a potential open trip?

Thanks

I think it means that the guy who has it has it on file in a trade for something else, if his trade goes through the "potential" will become "open."

pilotgolfer 01-28-2014 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 1568560)
I think it means that the guy who has it has it on file in a trade for something else, if his trade goes through the "potential" will become "open."

I think the potential open trip are straight drops. I have a trade entered trying a to trade into another trip a day earlier...and the one I'm trying to trade out of does not appear under the potential open trips.

I believe the potential open trips are only available for a straight pickup on days off.

David Watts 01-28-2014 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1568589)
I think the potential open trip are straight drops. I have a trade entered trying a to trade into another trip a day earlier...and the one I'm trying to trade out of does not appear under the potential open trips.

I believe the potential open trips are only available for a straight pickup on days off.

Thanks for the info. I'm still trying to figure out all of the terms. There is not a lot of open time in my base, so I was guessing the potential trips were trying to be dropped.

So if I put one in there some one can pick it up out of the potential section? I'm sure we have no coverage so they won't grant a drop.


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