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Old 01-10-2014 | 01:59 AM
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Man spending years at the regional and now coming on property here has really been unbelievable! reading all these threads about our company makes me feel like I'm flying at a regional again. Everything so far (except for the 737 training and the super unintuitive ccs program) has been great. I really enjoy the crews I fly with and trips I fly. All you new guys coming on are gonna love it!

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Old 01-10-2014 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BobWiley
Man spending years at the regional and now coming on property here has really been unbelievable! reading all these threads about our company makes me feel like I'm flying at a regional again. Everything so far (except for the 737 training and the super unintuitive ccs program) has been great. I really enjoy the crews I fly with and trips I fly. All you new guys coming on are gonna love it!

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Bob
Bob, I'm starting class in a week. Just curious, what was bad about the training in the 73? All the best, glad youre enjoying the line!
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Old 01-10-2014 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BobWiley
Man spending years at the regional and now coming on property here has really been unbelievable! reading all these threads about our company makes me feel like I'm flying at a regional again. Everything so far (except for the 737 training and the super unintuitive ccs program) has been great. I really enjoy the crews I fly with and trips I fly. All you new guys coming on are gonna love it!

Sincerely,

Bob
Interesting to hear that about the training from a fresh perspective. All of the U hitres I've talked to have said the same about the 737 training. They all say it it isn't good at all.

Welcome aboard..
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Old 01-10-2014 | 06:40 AM
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OK, everything is great except what really matters? Small detail I guess.
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Old 01-10-2014 | 07:23 AM
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There are areas where 737 initial could be better, for example more consistent scheduling times, an actual question bank for the "oral", getting the scabs out of the non motion sim instruction(they were not bad or great instructors but easy to get caught in crossfire between a scab ground Instructor and Union member flight instructor. Just my opinion.), inclusion of ACARS timely printouts to the scenarios, basic CCS functionality to do your job, and more focus on what you are really going to do on the line (210/170 till the marker/flaps 10, etc) over RNAV/GPS approaches, radial intercepts, and left seat captain actions.

On the other hand having been through 4 military initial training tracks and 2 civilian type rating courses, this was by far the best flight instruction i have experienced. Not even close.

As somebody told me, "It is initial training. You will always remember it and have opinions like everybody else."

And for those who opine that what am i gonna do to fix it? Ummm, i like flying the line a whole lot. Not going back to a desk. I have given my critique in writing and in person to the training center.

Gotta go fly...yeah it is pretty good.
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Old 01-10-2014 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BobWiley
Man spending years at the regional and now coming on property here has really been unbelievable! reading all these threads about our company makes me feel like I'm flying at a regional again. Everything so far (except for the 737 training and the super unintuitive ccs program) has been great. I really enjoy the crews I fly with and trips I fly. All you new guys coming on are gonna love it!

Sincerely,

Bob
The thing is, Bob, that many of us have been slogging through this garbage of a merger for over 3 years and nothing has gotten better. Virtually everything about my work life is worse than it was 3 years ago. I get that it is better than the regional, but is absolutely horrible compared to what it was pre-merger.

That said, I think our future (meaning having a job) is probably better than it was before the merger.

There is simply no reason that this corporation cannot compete with the DAL's of the world... with the right management. We don't have that. We have a classless, clueless bunch of monkeys at the top forcing reasonless changes that make even less sense than the failed res system switch.

I'm glad you're having fun with the job, and hopefully the movement and new pilots in the system will re-invigorate the rest of us, but for now, I'm really not liking the changes. Delta proved it could work... yet it seems like Jeff is intent on proving that it can't be done. We do have nice new uniforms though... Oh, whoops.

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Old 01-10-2014 | 08:44 AM
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The guppy training experience is NOT United. It's Continental.

It will get better once you go through Denver TK training.

Welcome.
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Old 01-10-2014 | 09:03 AM
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But the guppy training scheduling, which is a huge part of the dysfunction, is all in Willis now with LUal peeps running that show.
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Old 01-10-2014 | 09:07 AM
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Well as a profession with the regionals abusing their crews for little pay it is bound to leak into mainline as " heh it's better than a regional" mentality reins with the new hires. Wait till they reach critical mass and FAR work rules and cola pay raises will permeate the contract. It seems that jet blue is already locked into the it's better than regional mentality.
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Old 01-10-2014 | 09:26 AM
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But the guppy training scheduling, which is a huge part of the dysfunction, is all in Willis now with LUal peeps running that show.
Then why is TK different. <hint, it really is> There are very few "LUAL" peeps running anything right now. We hoped it would be better. It's not.

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