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Old 04-06-2014, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe
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I agree with your assessment other than timing. Since the merger, we have burned through about 1.4 billion in cash per year, with debt levels staying the same. As of last Dec, we had less than 5B in the bank, compared to over 9 combined when we merged.

If I was going to take a SWAG, I would guess the company begs for concessions before 3.5 -1 kicks in about 6 months from now.

117 is also very expensive. It might happen before then.

Meanwhile, DAL and AMR are predicting record profits............B@$tards!!!!!
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
Comparing a -900er to the 320 is apples and oranges. The 321 would be more apt.
I didn't know we operated any 321's
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by IAHB756
Problem with the 737 (all of them) is the lack of a heated horizontal stabilizer. That being said, a weight restricted 737-900ER (20/147=167 seats)flying into DEN under the above listed conditions normally ends up seating around 150 passengers. Guess what UAL also operates that seats 150 passengers (12/138)? The Airbus 320. I get it, the airbus can take a full load into high/icing penalty applied airports with a full load, but the 320 can't then take 167 people on to SEA while the 737 can. On bad days the 739 is basically a A-320 and on most days it serves (in the eyes of the finance guys) as a 757-200.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an airbus fan. I commute up front all the time and appreciate the thing. Just throwing out what the bean counters look at.
I understand what you're saying, the issue however is that they're selling all of the seats thinking that the airplane is actually capable of carrying that many people. Huge operational problems when we're unable to deliver passengers to their destination because the airplane we put on a route is unable to perform the mission. We're (UCH) doing this all over the system in basically every fleet. The operational decisions that are being made system wide are horrible and getting worse. The 737-900 performance issues as they relate to its mission is symptomatic of a much larger problem at this company IMHO.

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Old 04-07-2014, 06:25 AM
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I don't know why this subject keeps getting brought up? I've been on the airplane 15 yrs. Not sure how long the 900 has been here? I think it's been 5-6 yrs though and in all that time I have been weight restricted "1" TIME.(not sure it was even a 900 either!!) After talking to the dispatcher (wet runway in Denver dispute) I ended up getting everyone on board! It's a MOOT point but, I guess good for internet debate!!
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:39 PM
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I didn't know we operated any 321's
Sadly we don't. If we did, there wouldn't be a need for this thread.
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Really
I don't know why this subject keeps getting brought up? I've been on the airplane 15 yrs. Not sure how long the 900 has been here? I think it's been 5-6 yrs though and in all that time I have been weight restricted "1" TIME.(not sure it was even a 900 either!!) After talking to the dispatcher (wet runway in Denver dispute) I ended up getting everyone on board! It's a MOOT point but, I guess good for internet debate!!
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:55 PM
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
Sadly we don't. If we did, there wouldn't be a need for this thread.

I wish we'd order some. I'd like to fly it. It has its own issues though.
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Really
I don't know why this subject keeps getting brought up? I've been on the airplane 15 yrs. Not sure how long the 900 has been here? I think it's been 5-6 yrs though and in all that time I have been weight restricted "1" TIME.(not sure it was even a 900 either!!) After talking to the dispatcher (wet runway in Denver dispute) I ended up getting everyone on board! It's a MOOT point but, I guess good for internet debate!!
I've been on the -800 for going on 7 years and have been flying the -900 at DAL since we got them late last summer. I like it. I haven't seen any weight restrictions or performance issues other than leveling off 2000' lower, sometimes, on the initial climb. During the winter, we were going BOS-LAX and JFK-LAX into some stiff headwinds without any issues. DAL's config is 20/160.

Fun for debate. I agree.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:03 PM
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In all the time I flew the -900, the only weight restrictions I saw was MCO-SEA in the winter. No issues transcon with the -900ER.
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