737-900 Wow!
02-26-2014, 03:08 AM
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Boeing includes that exit on the 900 for operators with a high density seating configuration to meet evacuation certification requirements. The exit is not required for UAL's lower density (F/Y+/Y) configuration so it is deactivated.
02-26-2014, 04:27 AM
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02-26-2014, 05:09 AM
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Sailing fun
If you read my posts you will notice they are about the -900. As far as time in any of them you will also notice I talk about jump seating and the observed vspeeds from that perspective. I then discuss a historical position comparing other airplanes I have flown. Son the devil is in the details so please try to keep up.
Now the rumor about going around in a bounce I believe applied to a -900 ER and since you imply you are an expert can you clearly inform us readers what your manual states in such am incident. Also can any Delta jocks please let us know the wording of a rejected landing in your manual please.
One last note, all airplanes have an enroute icing penalty that effects go a rounds, some are just worse than others. In the good old days the dispatcher would never apply it unless requested by the captain. The reason was a 737-200 with -7 engines had I believe a 13,000 lb penalty or something like that.
If you read my posts you will notice they are about the -900. As far as time in any of them you will also notice I talk about jump seating and the observed vspeeds from that perspective. I then discuss a historical position comparing other airplanes I have flown. Son the devil is in the details so please try to keep up.
Now the rumor about going around in a bounce I believe applied to a -900 ER and since you imply you are an expert can you clearly inform us readers what your manual states in such am incident. Also can any Delta jocks please let us know the wording of a rejected landing in your manual please.
One last note, all airplanes have an enroute icing penalty that effects go a rounds, some are just worse than others. In the good old days the dispatcher would never apply it unless requested by the captain. The reason was a 737-200 with -7 engines had I believe a 13,000 lb penalty or something like that.
02-26-2014, 05:17 AM
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Another man of unbelievable musk and prowess.^^^^^ Dude if we ever meet is there a chance we could make out just a little bit? You do realize that it's just a 737 which is easy to fly but this one has really lousy performance which is what people are talking about here. It has nothing to do with your Delta Sierra Hotel super human pilot abilities. You do realize that, right? You ragging barbarian of a man you!!
02-26-2014, 05:21 AM
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Now you guys do realize that none of this matters? Not even our superhero's from Delta will be able to maintain their jobs (flying jobs, they will still be really good male escorts) if this is allowed to go through.
GET OFF YOUR assets and sign this petition;
#denyNAI | Tell Obama to deny Norwegian Air Shuttle's application to fly into the US
GET OFF YOUR assets and sign this petition;
#denyNAI | Tell Obama to deny Norwegian Air Shuttle's application to fly into the US
02-26-2014, 05:51 AM
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Now you guys do realize that none of this matters? Not even our superhero's from Delta will be able to maintain their jobs (flying jobs, they will still be really good male escorts) if this is allowed to go through.
GET OFF YOUR assets and sign this petition;
#denyNAI | Tell Obama to deny Norwegian Air Shuttle's application to fly into the US
GET OFF YOUR assets and sign this petition;
#denyNAI | Tell Obama to deny Norwegian Air Shuttle's application to fly into the US
Not only you, get your family and friends to sign, too.
Otherwise, the next pilot-hiring boom in the US will be in 30 years, when China is the wealthiest country on the planet, and the US is so poor and desperate, a new start-up called "Finland Air" (with aircraft registered in Guatemala) goes labor shopping using flag-of-convenience, and the cheapest pilots are in the US.
02-26-2014, 07:29 AM
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Dude you should market your manly musk scent. You are obviously an alpha male of untold proportions!
All of these cutting edge flight characteristics remind me very much of DC-8-61 in the performance department and a-71 in the don't flare/don't put a wing into the wind on landing lest you want to file a report. Boeing should be proud of their ectomorphic nightmare of an airplane in the form of the 737-900. Bringing the dawn of the jet age back to an airport near you! THANK YOU BOEING!
All of these cutting edge flight characteristics remind me very much of DC-8-61 in the performance department and a-71 in the don't flare/don't put a wing into the wind on landing lest you want to file a report. Boeing should be proud of their ectomorphic nightmare of an airplane in the form of the 737-900. Bringing the dawn of the jet age back to an airport near you! THANK YOU BOEING!
02-26-2014, 08:27 AM
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BTW, the the Accumulated Ice Penalty for the Approach Climb Limit Weight (i.e. go-around planning for dispatch in forecast icing conditions) is 19,300lbs for the 737-900ER @ flaps 30. This is why the 900ER can be weight restricted during winter in DEN.
(UAL 737 FM 5.40.6)
(UAL 737 FM 5.40.6)
The 900ER is by far the most restricted. It looks like if you fly through ice and the landing airport is less than 10C, you will have a landing weight penalty if the airport elevation is over 2500 feet even with bleeds off. If the elevation is 1500-2500, you can have no weight penalty if you land bleeds off. Below 1500 there are no worries.
I had no idea about this. I thought the ER was better all the way around, but not in this case.
02-26-2014, 09:18 AM
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We've had them for three years or so and have about 70 planes and at least seven tail strikes. I know you're better pilots than we are at UAL, but the reality is tail strikes in the ER will probably happen at Delta, too. The good news is you had a few years to learn from our mistakes so you shouldn't have as many (I think our rate is way down from when we first got them).
Jumped in my first ER a few years ago and didn't think anything of it. Didn't know we banged the tail on any until much later when I flew with a pilot who had. That's the thing... aside from its performance issues, it flies like an 800 or 900. Lulls you into a false sense of security. Truthfully, if you land the ER like an 800 or 900 and don't get slow or bounce the landing, no problem... but it does demand more respect and isn't as forgiving as an 800 or (non-ER) 900. Sounds like you've already broken the don't get slow code. Now let's talk about scimitar winglets and crosswinds...
Jumped in my first ER a few years ago and didn't think anything of it. Didn't know we banged the tail on any until much later when I flew with a pilot who had. That's the thing... aside from its performance issues, it flies like an 800 or 900. Lulls you into a false sense of security. Truthfully, if you land the ER like an 800 or 900 and don't get slow or bounce the landing, no problem... but it does demand more respect and isn't as forgiving as an 800 or (non-ER) 900. Sounds like you've already broken the don't get slow code. Now let's talk about scimitar winglets and crosswinds...
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