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Old 02-26-2014 | 11:05 AM
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If NAI is able to start flying here and we lose this battle could US airlines start outsourcing our cabin crew to places like the philippines?
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Old 02-26-2014 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CanoePilot
If NAI is able to start flying here and we lose this battle could US airlines start outsourcing our cabin crew to places like the philippines?
Yes of course they could. Not only can they but they will very rapidly. Cabin crew and flight crew in case you were thinking that a Philipino cabin crew would somehow be a boost to your dating stats.
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Old 02-26-2014 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie
Inflation adjusted, the market is basically at year 2000 levels. You give a whoo hooo to that? The Community Organizer is making us rich? Please put the bottle down.

The low was in mid- March 2009. No, I haven't forgotten. Read the Big Short by Michael Lewis. Are you in the Republicans created the housing bubble and the Dems swooped in with Hope and saved us train of thought? Barney Frank would love you
C'mon Cuz, why you be hatin? I don't know what kind of ballyhoo is written in that book, but 1 thing is for sure....the DOW is up about 10,000 points in less than 5 years. So raise your glass and toast the B.H.O. TEN THOUSAND...to one of the most robust, yet most hated rallies of our time. BUH-YAH baby. Fool On. <clink> <slurp>
Ahhhhhh...it tastes SO Sweeeet.

Sledinvest

PS. I have been thinking of the gold investments that Glenn Beck and other affiable nitwits have been pumping on Fox News commercials, but I think I'll continue to let it be until it continues it's LONG slide to < $700. What do ya think?? gigity

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Old 02-26-2014 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
C'mon Cuz, why you be hatin? I don't know what kind of ballyhoo is written in that book, but 1 thing is for sure....the DOW is up about 10,000 points in less than 5 years. So raise your glass and toast the B.H.O. TEN THOUSAND...to one of the most robust, yet most hated rallies of our time. BUH-YAH baby. Fool On. <clink> <slurp>
Ahhhhhh...it tastes SO Sweeeet.

Sledinvest

PS. I have been thinking of the gold investments that Glenn Beck and other affiable nitwits have been pumping on Fox News commercials, but I think I'll continue to let it be until it continues it's LONG slide to < $700. What do ya think?? gigity
I really hope you're selling off to capture your gains. Every market and equities analyst I know are in unanimous agreement that this is one big fed inflated bubble. We're one bad treasury auction away from a complete reversal.
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Old 03-01-2014 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by krudawg
If this goes thru, I personally will NEVER vote for another Democrat! Ever!
I suspect that you rarely did anyway. It is amazing how few pilots understand the basics of the political landscape on which their livelihoods are so dependent.
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Old 03-01-2014 | 12:55 PM
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I'm quite confident that if Romney were in office right now it would have a BETTER chance of passing than it does under the current administration
Originally Posted by krudawg
Based on what? Ed Shultz? Rachel Maddow? You are talking fiction and we are talking about our jobs NOW, with the CURRENT administration and Senate.
How about facts presented by the Financial Times? Is that conservative enough for you? Then again for true believers no amount of evidence is sufficient.


Romney link to union suppression ruling - FT.com

Romney link to union suppression ruling

By Robin Harding in Washington

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A company controlled by Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital ran an unlawful campaign to suppress a potential union in the 1980s, according to US court and federal agency documents.

Key Airlines, an early investment for the private equity firm founded by a young Mitt Romney and two associates, broke the law by attempting to coerce and then dismiss two pilots who tried to organise a union. Two months after a union vote failed, Bain agreed to sell Key Airlines at a large profit.

“The anti-union activities in this case are not merely unfair labour practices as Key argues, but blatant, grievous, wilful, deliberate and repeated violations of the Railway Labour Act,” Roger Foley, federal judge for the District of Nevada, wrote in 1992, in a case brought by two Key pilots.

The case illustrates an episode in Mr Romney’s business career and raises questions about how it has prepared him to manage the US economy.

Key Airlines was a small charter carrier with a military contract to ferry personnel to bases in the Nevada desert. The union effort was suppressed under Bain’s ownership in 1985 and 1986 although a court judgment against the company and its management – including Bain Capital founding partner T Coleman Andrews III – did not come until 1992. The judgment was later qualified by a subsequent court ruling in 1994, together with an agreement to settle an appeal.

According to regulatory filings, Mr Romney was a director of Key Airlines and had a personal shareholding in the airline. Neither Mr Romney nor Bain Capital were named or cited in the federal court ruling in Nevada.

Mr Romney’s campaign referred to a statement on its website supporting the right of workers to join – or not join – a union: “To exercise that right freely, workers must have access to all the relevant facts they need to make an informed decision. This means hearing from both the union about the potential benefits and from management about potential costs.”

“Despite unemployment over 8 per cent for more than three years, President Obama continues to put the interests of labour bosses ahead of the interests of Americans looking for work,” added Michele Davis, a spokeswoman for the campaign. “By contrast, Governor Romney has grown companies and created jobs, in the private sector and as Governor of Massachusetts, and will get America working again.”

Key Airlines was initially acquired in 1983 by investors including partners of the Bain & Company management consultancy. When Bain Capital was set up in 1984, according to a prospectus aimed at marketing funds managed by Bain, one of its first investments was a $2m injection into Key.

In the autumn of 1985, 21 pilots at Key planned to form their own union, citing safety concerns. Management said that the campaign was actually motivated by low pay.

According to the court ruling, Key held coercive meetings with pilots; said management would leave and the company lose contracts; and told pilots that salaries, bonuses and benefits could be frozen. Federal labour law forbids an airline “to interfere in any way with the organisation of its employees”.

Two union organisers – Olen Rae Goodwin and Lawrence Schlang, a former naval aviator – were instructed to sign resignation letters, according to a separate report by the National Mediation Board, which oversees union elections in the sector. The report described the company’s excuse for this dismissal as “little more than pretext”. When a union election was finally held only two pilots voted “yes”.

Mr Schlang confirmed the events but asked the Financial Times to rely on the written court records. He is now 76. Mr Goodwin was reached at his home but declined to comment.

Court and regulatory files and an internal Bain & Company memorandum reviewed by the FT also reveal extensive details about the financing and performance of the deal.

The initial $5m purchase was funded entirely with debt: the Bain & Company partners guaranteed some of the borrowing but put in no capital themselves. Mr Romney personally owned 5 per cent of Bain’s stake. Key Airlines grew during the period of the Bain investment, more than doubling its sales from 1983 to 1986, and creating jobs.

Bain also sold off assets from the operating company. When Key Airlines was sold for $18m in 1986, its total balance sheet amounted to $2m compared with $13m at the time of purchase.
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