Airline Pilot Central Forums - In the matter of: UAL DRC vs CAL DRC

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)

- United (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/)

- - In the matter of: UAL DRC vs CAL DRC (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/81762-matter-ual-drc-vs-cal-drc.html)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 1663866)

As a CAL guy, same here. Moveon.org please.

You had me until .org. Then I threw up in my mouth! :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NavyCal (Post 1664330)

You had me until .org. Then I threw up in my mouth! :eek:

You will learn.

Nothere/Carolsdanger/Staller etc

Instead of changing your avatar every few months, could you just change........well..............you????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nothere (Post 1664070)

Guess you feel you've gotten everything you can and now want to be a team player??? You implying the new hires are in some way tied to old CAL is telling. You've already been exposed as a company stooge on a public forum and your only real desire is a move to full time management. As far as the hate claim - I have no hatred toward any individual or group but really don't like those willing to sell out others for their own personal gain. I don't think many of the pilots would either.

Nowhere, staller and other names of old.

Not a company stooge or management. Also probably not good to say I've been exposed as anything when you have been banned how many times now for your hateful rhetoric?

When I mention new hires I was speaking explicitly to all the ones that I had dealt with in new hire classes and in IAH for the last three years. Not CAL or UAL but all United. We have a great group of new pilots and great UAL and CAL pilots too. The issue I have is that you always talk about the CAL pilot group in broad terms and it's always how bad we are and how quick we will cross a picket line and yada yada. What you say is not true almost all of the time.

I could care less about this topic or the next two decisions the arbs make. Does it affect me? Probably but I can't control their decisons and I will accept the outcome (like many have done on here).

So, my true colors are only to see all the childish arguing about who is better, negative stereotyping and move forward to better all of us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flybynuts (Post 1664423)

Not a company stooge or management .............So, my true colors are only to see all the childish arguing about who is better, negative stereotyping and move forward to better all of us.

Young Grasshopper would be reminded not to do management's bidding with veiled threats and suppositions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flybynuts (Post 1649127)

Also there have been some who have/are trying to game the system. One even called in fatigue for a sim two times. These two times appear to be very strategic when you look at the person's schedule. However, there are "eyes on" now trying to monitor this and avoid this from happening.

There may be instructors "helping a bro out," maybe. But it could be the same saying the south is doing it too. All I do know is if someone gets caught doing it then it will be ugly for some, for sure. Deliberate and intentional abuse will end in job loss, just ask the MD of training.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1664445)

Young Grasshopper would be reminded not to do management's bidding with veiled threats and suppositions.

Lay off it ST. Though I don't know flybynuts personally, his posts have always been helpful and professional (unlike many of your own posts...and some of mine ;)

Just calling it like I see it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1664445)

Young Grasshopper would be reminded not to do management's bidding with veiled threats and suppositions.

That didn't come across as a threat to me, but I've been accused of being slow on the uptake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flybynuts (Post 1664423)

No more decisions. LUAL dropped the other two cases after the ruling, which was IMO the right thing to do. From one of my favorite movies:

"Alright I'm cooler than you. Now fix your little problems and let's LIGHT THIS CANDLE"

Special,

I never meant to come across that way and I apologize since you took it that way. We have several fronts to worry about job loss right now with the company and NAI and etc... All I was intending was to quickly dispel a rumor. What you quoted from me was no threat or mgmt subversion. Most of my info I post just comes asking questions. I was me proving that one's action doesn't make it a "many" situation and yes, if you are caught lying or stealing you can get in some real trouble just as we would if we blatantly disregard safety. I almost expanded that comment to even mention that we have guys losing their cool and starting to bring the arguments to the cockpit and/or hotel lobby. Ask our pro stans guys about this. I hate to see this happen to good people over topics that we can't even control.

GB,
Love the quote and movie. Even better is I'll hold your beer while you light it!