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steve0617 12-05-2014 08:32 AM

I know this thread is ancient, but we've got this exact issue and I can't find an answer.

Wife was awarded EWR guppy vacation for Jan 15 back during the annual vacation bidding period earlier this year. She then lateraled via to LAX in September. However, vacation award in CCS still shows EWR vacation. No vacation for her in LAX.

Since I'm expecting it not to actually show in her LAX bidding starting tomorrow, how do we reclaim those days to ensure she doesn't lose them? Or get them back so she can attempt monthly vacation bidding?

Hilltopper89 12-05-2014 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by steve0617 (Post 1776759)
I know this thread is ancient, but we've got this exact issue and I can't find an answer.

Wife was awarded EWR guppy vacation for Jan 15 back during the annual vacation bidding period earlier this year. She then lateraled via to LAX in September. However, vacation award in CCS still shows EWR vacation. No vacation for her in LAX.

Since I'm expecting it not to actually show in her LAX bidding starting tomorrow, how do we reclaim those days to ensure she doesn't lose them? Or get them back so she can attempt monthly vacation bidding?

Not sure I understand the question regarding "EWR Vacation." As far as I know vacation is vacation. The UPA says that the company "can" cancel vacation. If it's still in there I assume they haven't canceled it. I had similar happen recently when I did a base trade. My vacation wasn't canceled, probably because it is in January, a slow month and not desirable anyhow. Go into CCS under "Reports" and "Absences". Mine says "Yearly Vacation".

steve0617 12-05-2014 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Hilltopper89 (Post 1776903)
Not sure I understand the question regarding "EWR Vacation." As far as I know vacation is vacation. The UPA says that the company "can" cancel vacation. If it's still in there I assume they haven't canceled it. I had similar happen recently when I did a base trade. My vacation wasn't canceled, probably because it is in January, a slow month and not desirable anyhow. Go into CCS under "Reports" and "Absences". Mine says "Yearly Vacation".

While she was based in EWR, she bid for and was awarded annual vacation for the end of Jan 15. Under Reports/Annual Vacation, it shows, and has always shown, as EWR based vacation. Even though four months ago she lateraled to LAX, the vacation still shows as EWR vacation. Since bidding for January starts tomorrow, and this thread seems to indicate it's all domicile, rather than system based vacation, wondering what to do to reclaim the days so she even can monthly vacation bid or not lose the days entirely. They don't show her having any days to bid under monthly vacation bidding.

Was hoping to find someone who's had this exact thing happen with vacation awarded in the old domicile and what to do when it doesn't transfer.

Hilltopper89 12-06-2014 04:27 AM

My guess is that they did not cancel her annual vacation and she still has it in January which is why she has no days for monthly bidding. I'm curious how CCS delineates it as EWR based? As stated, mine just says "Yearly Vacation". It was awarded in IAH and I'm at another base now. The easiest way to tell, since the January bidding cycle just opened today, is to go into CCS and see if she has Yearly vacation in January. Any planned absences will show at the top in the calendar strip. My IAH awarded Yearly Vacation is still in there even though I base traded 2 months ago...

Cheers,

HT

steve0617 12-06-2014 07:16 AM

I must apologize for jumping the gun. With bidding opening early for January, it turns out it's in there correctly in LAX.

After going 0 for 2 with getting the lateral stuff correct from the start, combined with this thread about the vacation being cancelled after lateraling, I had no reason to think it wouldn't have been a mess.

UAL did good here.

130drvr 12-06-2014 03:47 PM

Careful, attaboys toward the company are frowned upon by the older folks on this board :D

BMEP100 12-07-2014 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by steve0617 (Post 1777511)
I must apologize for jumping the gun. With bidding opening early for January, it turns out it's in there correctly in LAX.

After going 0 for 2 with getting the lateral stuff correct from the start, combined with this thread about the vacation being cancelled after lateraling, I had no reason to think it wouldn't have been a mess.

UAL did good here.


I'll grant maybe they didn't do bad. Or maybe someone just forgot and didn't do anything at all.
Vacation is awarded to employee numbers, not bases. So unless someone manually removes that vacation from the employees staffing schedule, it should still show up on PBS that month.

Must really upset the 5 year olds in LAX who are in the group of "hey somebody got a good deal, and I didn't.. Waaaa!

steve0617 12-07-2014 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1777976)
I'll grant maybe they didn't do bad. Or maybe someone just forgot and didn't do anything at all.
Vacation is awarded to employee numbers, not bases. So unless someone manually removes that vacation from the employees staffing schedule, it should still show up on PBS that month.

Must really upset the 5 year olds in LAX who are in the group of "hey somebody got a good deal, and I didn't.. Waaaa!

I totally agree that vacation is vacation, but based on this thread and assuming vacation is awarded based on manpower planning per domicile, it made sense the EWR awarded vacation wouldn't transfer overt to LAX. It did, without intervention. Amazed us, actually.

Airhoss 12-07-2014 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by steve0617 (Post 1778061)
I totally agree that vacation is vacation, but based on this thread and assuming vacation is awarded based on manpower planning per domicile, it made sense the EWR awarded vacation wouldn't transfer overt to LAX. It did, without intervention. Amazed us, actually.

Yeah...

It's not supposed to work that way.

pilot64golfer 12-07-2014 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1778068)
Yeah...

It's not supposed to work that way.

I thought it could still be awarded if the company allowed it, but there was no more right to it.

Either that or an IT glitch that favors a pilot (finally).


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