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SKMarz 06-08-2014 10:01 AM

Vacation question
 
I'm sure this has been discussed before but I haven't been able to find the thread.

If you change bases but not equipment, can you keep the vacation you were awarded? Thanks in advance.

ugleeual 06-08-2014 02:08 PM

Don't think so...

pilot64golfer 06-08-2014 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by SKMarz (Post 1660724)
I'm sure this has been discussed before but I haven't been able to find the thread.

If you change bases but not equipment, can you keep the vacation you were awarded? Thanks in advance.

No. It gets canceled and you have to bid it monthly.

BMEP100 06-08-2014 04:31 PM

I've heard you lose it. Bad deal. Was this an LUAL practice? Certainly not an improvement. LCAL kept vacation no matter what, change equipment, seats, bases... Also, everyone that wanted to bid, got annual vacation if they wanted it. None of this "hope for monthly vacation bid slots".

APC225 06-08-2014 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1661005)
I've heard you lose it. Bad deal. Was this an LUAL practice? Certainly not an improvement. LCAL kept vacation no matter what, change equipment, seats, bases.

It violates local seniority.

BMEP100 06-08-2014 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1661007)
It violates local seniority.

In no way does it do that. No one loses something they never had.. as in vacation.

Shrek 06-08-2014 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1661068)
In no way does it do that. No one loses something they never had.. as in vacation.

Doesn't matter because that's not how it is done now......

My new mantra.....

"Move on Ex-Con!!"

APC225 06-08-2014 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1661068)
In no way does it do that. No one loses something they never had.. as in vacation.

They "had" a better vacation than those junior to them. Now someone junior to them "has" a better vacation than them. Can't have that. At CAL FOs woul choose to bid upgrade in the spring, after they had bid 2 weeks off at Christmas and 3 weeks off in the summer. Now they're at the bottom of the captain side with same vacation. Some not pleased.

SKMarz 06-08-2014 11:21 PM

Thanks for the responses.

BMEP100 06-09-2014 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1661143)
They "had" a better vacation than those junior to them. Now someone junior to them "has" a better vacation than them. Can't have that. At CAL FOs woul choose to bid upgrade in the spring, after they had bid 2 weeks off at Christmas and 3 weeks off in the summer. Now they're at the bottom of the captain side with same vacation. Some not pleased.

Not necessarily junior, and not necessarily better. But whatever,,, that's just whining since nothing was taken away from anyone. However now, vacation itself can be an impediment to exercise of seniority because a pilot may have to forgo bidding up so as to keep his vacation that his wife/hubby had planned for a year. There are other real assaults on seniority- Preferential bidding maybe number one! "Overall solution constraints" @Shrek - that is right out of the Hillary Clinton Benghazi play book " what does it matter now"?


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