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Pkcola 07-25-2014 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1691393)
With all this movement, some of the staffing shortages will be temporarily answered accidentally because of this new ridiculous vacation policy.

The hundreds of pilots changing status will lose their vacation. Salt in the wound.

It shouldn't be salt in the wounds. The monthly vacation bids should smooth it out and it's only short term. Should have no major impact except for the junior guys being displaced and they probable didn't get a vacation they wanted anyway.

DeuceMountain 07-25-2014 06:38 AM

So perhaps you more experienced folks wouldn't mind educating a noob about this… I'm a poolie awaiting training, and can't help but wonder how often these shake-ups have occurred in the past few years. Is this just a product of the merger? Do those of you who've been here a while feel like this will be the new norm? Not that I'm going anywhere else, mind you--just trying to wrap my head around the culture.

Boulderian 07-25-2014 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by DeuceMountain (Post 1691464)
So perhaps you more experienced folks wouldn't mind educating a noob about this… I'm a poolie awaiting training, and can't help but wonder how often these shake-ups have occurred in the past few years. Is this just a product of the merger? Do those of you who've been here a while feel like this will be the new norm? Not that I'm going anywhere else, mind you--just trying to wrap my head around the culture.

Long story short: Some bases have more flying than they have pilots, while others have more pilots than flying. Since the merger, the company has been building lines that have pilots from overstaffed bases(737 IAH/76T DEN) deadhead to understaffed bases (737 ORD/737 DEN) due to some fleets growing while other fleets shrinking, costing the company money by removing revenue passengers from flights.

So the company plans to move pilots in order for each base to properly staff its own flying by forcing pilots from overstaffed bases to a different aircraft and base that their seniority can hold, causing a domino effect until everyone is where their seniority allows them to be.

This should affect mostly junior guys relative to each base. Newhires need not worry because they are already put where nobody else wants to be (EWR 737, 320, 76T.)

nopac6 07-25-2014 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by DeuceMountain (Post 1691464)
So perhaps you more experienced folks wouldn't mind educating a noob about this… I'm a poolie awaiting training, and can't help but wonder how often these shake-ups have occurred in the past few years. Is this just a product of the merger? Do those of you who've been here a while feel like this will be the new norm? Not that I'm going anywhere else, mind you--just trying to wrap my head around the culture.

Duece, this is totally merger-related. Displacements of this size are pretty rare normally.

Welcome aboard and I hope you get into training soon.

Probe 07-25-2014 09:52 AM

Displacements of this size are rare. In the last 12 years, they were normally much larger.

nopac6 07-25-2014 09:56 AM

Displacements of any size are pretty rare. I think Duece is just trying to figure out if this is a regularly-occuring thing and IMO it's not, at least during normal times. The last 12 years have hardly been normal.

Shrek 07-25-2014 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by DeuceMountain (Post 1691464)
So perhaps you more experienced folks wouldn't mind educating a noob about this… I'm a poolie awaiting training, and can't help but wonder how often these shake-ups have occurred in the past few years. Is this just a product of the merger? Do those of you who've been here a while feel like this will be the new norm? Not that I'm going anywhere else, mind you--just trying to wrap my head around the culture.

Deuce - first and most importantly - welcome to United Airlines ! Wear your half-wing proudly and enjoy the free beers/coffee and food for your entire first year. It is a United tradition that is a way for us to "pay it forward" to the newest among us. We remember where you are at and it can be overwhelming.

As for the displacement and bumps this the final shuffling of the deck for the airline to put people where they need them. It IS rare and you shouldn't have to worry about it for you personally. Just try to learn your aircraft and enjoy the lifestyle.

Never EVER answer your phone (even on RSV) - just get your voicemail and go from there.

Know the ALPA PDR system well it is one stop shopping for all things ALPA.

You have come at the beginning of the hiring cycle which will pay dividends your entire career.

And always always call a 737 a Guppy/A320 FiFi /747 a Whale

deltajuliet 07-25-2014 10:34 AM

Sorry to anyone negatively affected, but the mention of 767's made me think of a quick unrelated question.

Are pilots who are type rated for the 757 and 767 assigned to both, or do you exclusively fly only one?

catIIIc 07-25-2014 10:36 AM

The 76T flys LUAL 757-200's and 767-300's and the 756 flys the L-CAL 757-200,300's and 767-400's

deltajuliet 07-25-2014 10:42 AM

Would you mine explaining 76T and 756? And haven't those groups merged? Thanks.


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