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Greg Bockelman 10-04-2014 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1740008)
Yes. If i remember correctly, the thunder guppy went 2.5 yrs with the super guppy and 727 running about 3 yrs. Those bids were very short lived.

I hope most get something they want or move up the pecking order.

Well, for what it is worth, I put in a 737 Captain bid. I have been a 777 FO for 17 years and it is time to move. :D

SpecialTracking 10-04-2014 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Greg Bockelman (Post 1740010)
Well, for what it is worth, I put in a 737 Captain bid. I have been a 777 FO for 17 years and it is time to move. :D

Do ya think?

sleeves 10-04-2014 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by unitedflyier (Post 1739993)
Wasn't there 3-4 year Capts at old United on the 737/200 and 727 around 1999/2000 before it all went backwards? I do remember newhires bidding the 400 and getting it.

Fingers crossed things keep moving in the right direction. The profession stopped for +10 years.

We had 2 year Capt. At LCAL in 07 with newbies assigned 777 out of class. Crazy retirements and movement till 65 put the kabosh on it. With MGT saying 1300 newbies coming by 4/16 hope the music keeps playing a while.

unitedflyier 10-04-2014 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Greg Bockelman (Post 1739999)
I don't see why you wouldn't bid what you want.

Wait a minute. What is the real question?

Do you bid the equipment you want even if it means commuting for awhile, or do you bid the domicile you want even if it means you don't get the equipment you want?

That answer depends on if you desire the equipment or the domicile more.

Of course I could be completely misunderstanding the question.

Well if I wanted 76T outta EWR I think it would probably be quicker to bid the 76T outta another base instead of 737 EWR and wait for training. Less studying paid move etc. Do they still have paid moves. What about the piano tuning that was in the contract years ago? Do they give yo PS tickets for 6 months on a paid move?

What ever base I bid I have to commute so for me 6 day trips means less nights in a cheap hotel or crash pad. 2 days off in a row is a no go thing, did it for years and it sucked I was never at home.

I just want to wait a while longer so I don't get the third furlough!!

krudawg 10-04-2014 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by flyboycpa (Post 1739861)
Don't need to, just look on CCS>Reports>Staffing for the respective Category [Base/Eqpt/Seat] and see how many are above the company seniority number (6831, in this case). :)

Hey, thanks for that

Coach67 10-05-2014 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1739921)
When we were hired they told us that for every 747-400 Captain bid, there were 14 bids created downstream do to musical chairs style food fight which ensued. Of course we had the DC10, the Rope Start 47 and the 727 then, along with engineer seats on all three, and two different guppy schools. Now there's the 787 and all the batship stuff going on with the 67 so I'm not surprised at the number nor the news about slowing down 787 deliveries. The merger has been clunky on many fronts and having the right bodies, trained and in the right places would seem to be a huge hurdle. I think this place is in for some rough sledding WRT training and I think those who want to roll the dice could luck out. Just like the guys whose training wasn't completed on time, there will be pearls awarded. Sitting Reserve on the 777 sounds good to me!

Yeah but that was before the seniority ... strike that ... pay banding!

oldmako 10-05-2014 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Coach67 (Post 1740460)
Yeah but that was before the seniority ... strike that ... pay banding!

Oh yeah. I forgot about that crap. I wonder what cataclysmicly (sp?) stupid thing we'll come up with next? Bullet, meet foot.

Airhoss 10-05-2014 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1740506)
Oh yeah. I forgot about that crap. I wonder what cataclysmicly (sp?) stupid thing we'll come up with next? Bullet, meet foot.

Oh that's easy. Dual pay band one for F/O and one for captain. ;)

SOTeric 10-05-2014 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1740639)
Oh that's easy. Dual pay band one for F/O and one for captain. ;)

And why not? Both pilots fly the same number of passengers on a given flight. Makes perfect sense!

Airhoss 10-06-2014 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 1740895)
And why not? Both pilots fly the same number of passengers on a given flight. Makes perfect sense!

I don't know if you forgot the just kidding ;) icon or you are being serious here. But in any case I wasn't aware that a 737 F/O flies the same amount of passengers on a given flight as a 777 F/O. A single pay band pays all F/O's one rate solely based on longevity no matter what equipment they are on. Same for captains.


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