The snapshot is "supposed" to be accurate.

However, per the UPA the company may waive any freeze it desires so it is certainly possible for new-hires (or anybody else) to be awarded something that on the surface appears unusual. It all just depends on where the company is projecting it wants pilots.

As always, the only thing that really counts is the final award.

For now .. Pay bands appeared in one contract, they can disappear in the next. The company doesn't care one way or the other .. to them, it's a question of total cost that matters.

Pretty much---although the company does like bands to the extent that it theoretically decreases training expenses.

And if an aircraft "gets paid more than it otherwise should" that means the money is coming from someplace else.

That sounds like Lewis & Clark's pre-departure briefing! :rolleyes:

Corrected snapshot is now posted showing the more realistic awards. ORD still going senior on most fleets with all vacancies taken. SFO going junior with new hires.

Unfilled vacancies only in EWR and IAH.

Change to get better or even worse?

And for someone on the outside, why does the trip get broken up? Something contractual I'm not seeing or is only in their good will to give more days at home?

Where is that language in the UPA. I understand waiving freezes for new hire lateral moves (EWR 320 to SFO 737) and new hire from wide body to narrow body (EWR 756 to SFO 73/IAH320) ... But it seems they are not waiving the freeze for EWR 76t guys.

If they waive a freeze it should be for anyone to bid INTO a category. (If your seniority can hold it)
Not to waive a freeze in a current category and in turn, let a junior guy move to a base and category the senior guys wants and can certainly hold.

Any info is helpful! Thanks

8-D-5 The Company, after consultation with the SSC, may waive any of the freezes outlined in Section 8-D for any specific vacancy bulletin.

Up to the company which freezes get waived. They can pick and choose to staff bases and equipment as they see fit.

Not agreeing just another vague part of the contract we were assured after 100 days of waiting that dotting the I's and crossing the T's missed.

I would bet no freezes will be waived if it would require a full course of training. No problem for the company to waive a 76T/756 freeze. That' just a two day event. The company views that as a win/win and likely a cost neutral item.

Speaking of 757/76T anyone have an idea if they completed retrofitting all the 767-300? I thought they started this back in 2012 sending them over to HKG for some work.