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Old 04-25-2015 | 08:51 AM
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Inside the SkyWest Airlines Plane Where 3 Passengers Passed Out Mid-Flight - ABC News

Hypoxia, or hyperventilation? Group hysteria?

Or, engine-oil mist in the A/C?
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Old 04-25-2015 | 09:24 AM
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Jeez, all kinds of stupidity going on in that aircraft and that article.
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Old 04-25-2015 | 09:49 AM
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Whenever I read/watch/hear 'news' stories like this I get the impression that the media (and I guess by association, the general public) think we as pilots are just along for the ride while the plane has a mind of it's own. For example, I love the caption they have on for most of this story that reads "Plane Nosedives After Passengers Pass Out". Oh, so the plane senses 3 people have lost consciousness and starts a random, uncontrolled "nosedive"? Does anyone know any other way to "dive" a jet? Better than an assdive I suppose but that's a whole different topic. Give me a freaking break. Why not say something like "Pilots React to Medical Emergency"? Not sensationalist enough I suppose

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Old 04-25-2015 | 09:56 AM
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"Intoxicated, psychotic, sleepy, overpaid, crybaby, part time whiny pilots unable to respond to Medical Emergency: Plane Nosedives entirely on its own nearly killing everyone. Dr Bob Arnot saves the day. Details at Eleven."

How's that?
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Old 04-25-2015 | 10:28 AM
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Rather than debate the merits and accuracy of the media (zero/none), my real question was:

"What would make three people pass out, and no one else?"
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Old 04-25-2015 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
Rather than debate the merits and accuracy of the media (zero/none), my real question was:

"What would make three people pass out, and no one else?"
A lower tolerance for hypoxia than everyone else.
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Old 04-25-2015 | 10:44 AM
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True, especially amongst the elderly or weak.

I've also seen the self-induced form (hyperventilation) due to anxiety in the altitude chamber (not passed out, but displaying hypoxia symptoms).

That's the mass-hysteria angle. One person does due to their low tolerance. Another---a nurse---gets lightheaded from exhertion on said patient. Some other armrest-gripper sees this and thinks "We aren't getting any air!!" Panic, etc.

Other than high cabin altitude, the only other thing I know of that can affect people physiologically would be engine oil present in the bleed air, which goes to the cabin. Such oil can originate from a pinhole leak at the first bearing, in front of the compressor.

Jet turbine oil contains Tricresyl phosphate as a stabilizing additive for high and low temerature extremes.

Tricresyl phosphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is also a nerve agent and extremely toxic.
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Old 04-25-2015 | 12:14 PM
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Brian Williams is reporting he had enough breathable oxygen just three rows in front of those people but could sense a pressurization problem in that specific area, almost like a black hole, the pilots were reported watching the aircraft not do a nosedive, rather a cannonball.
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Old 04-25-2015 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Brian Williams is reporting he had enough breathable oxygen just three rows in front of those people but could sense a pressurization problem in that specific area, almost like a black hole, the pilots were reported watching the aircraft not do a nosedive, rather a cannonball.
It was actually this;

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Old 04-25-2015 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Brian Williams is reporting he had enough breathable oxygen just three rows in front of those people but could sense a pressurization problem in that specific area, almost like a black hole, the pilots were reported watching the aircraft not do a nosedive, rather a cannonball.
Brian Williams would never do such a thing. He would've been in those seats, next to those passengers feeling what it was like to experience an explosive decompression but had no issues because of his extensive workout regimen.
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