Tracy Aces were a different group. They were hired near the end of WWII and trained in Tracy, CA (hence the name). They were young and always senior at UAL.

To their credit they were the leaders in contract and safety, but many also knew it and were very "sure" of everything they did.

The 300 hour mentioned were late 60s hires whom United recruited also at a young age. Many actually arrived in Denver with a Private license and UAL paid for their Commercial and Instrument licenses at Clinton Aviation in Denver.

That's the good part. The bad part is many sat F/E for a very long time and some were furloughed for 5-7 years.

The most famous of the group is probably Rick Dubinski. Hired at 21 years old and become a rabid ALPA leader starting in his mid 20s until retirement (as a 747 Captain). The man was feared, hated and respected by Senior Man.

 

actually never heard of Tracy Aces, thought he was referring to someone else.

 

And 1969 TWA hires were furloughed within months of completing F/E training (early 1970). First furlough was for around 7 years. Second and third were only for a handful of years. They were in there fifties before being holding Capt. Lost their pension in bankruptcy in the 1980s.

 

The TWA pilots lost their pension in the 80's and we were stupid enough to keep pensions so everyone else could lose their's 20 years later? *** ALPA?

 

Go talk to Whiteferg.

 

Sounds familiar.

 

Yeah.......Very familiar.

 

What? We are United. That would never happen to us.

 

Saw this thread pop up on the bottom. of the page from a few years ago...well we’re at sub 5 year CAs...I think

 

Textbook definition of career expectations. I was told 3-4 years. Didn’t pan out that way for me either.