New Hire Captains within 5 years
07-26-2015 | 04:11 PM
#61
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IF ALPA allows age 67 to occur then ALPA isn't looking out for ALPA members. This career is hard enough on the body. It's just plain irresponsible for ALPA to make this happen to us, for us, and upon us.
Further........and this is important.
what would the company's attitude be toward retiring say...."early" at say....age 65 be? would we be financially penalized in anyway, other than minus 2 years in the program, and minus 2 years earnings? I recall some shananagans with management at Continental after age 65 occurred and their ability to get their moneys from the A fund.
I am more than skeptical that age 67 would be good for the profession, and good for the pilots.
ALPA should survey the membership on this.
I don't want to see another backdoor (and a big back room) program from Fred Abbott, to Fred Stankovich, to Bobby Sturgel with assistance from John Prater, and the friends of fred instructor and check airman (senior pilots coalition) club ever again. The entire thing was a disgrace to the profession, to ALPA, and to the CAL ALPA MEC and to the CAL pilots. Shame on ALPA and the backroom deal makers. Shame on ALPA for not pursuing the grievance.
Further........and this is important.
what would the company's attitude be toward retiring say...."early" at say....age 65 be? would we be financially penalized in anyway, other than minus 2 years in the program, and minus 2 years earnings? I recall some shananagans with management at Continental after age 65 occurred and their ability to get their moneys from the A fund.
I am more than skeptical that age 67 would be good for the profession, and good for the pilots.
ALPA should survey the membership on this.
I don't want to see another backdoor (and a big back room) program from Fred Abbott, to Fred Stankovich, to Bobby Sturgel with assistance from John Prater, and the friends of fred instructor and check airman (senior pilots coalition) club ever again. The entire thing was a disgrace to the profession, to ALPA, and to the CAL ALPA MEC and to the CAL pilots. Shame on ALPA and the backroom deal makers. Shame on ALPA for not pursuing the grievance.
07-26-2015 | 04:46 PM
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
IF ALPA allows age 67 to occur then ALPA isn't looking out for ALPA members. This career is hard enough on the body. It's just plain irresponsible for ALPA to make this happen to us, for us, and upon us.
Further........and this is important.
what would the company's attitude be toward retiring say...."early" at say....age 65 be? would we be financially penalized in anyway, other than minus 2 years in the program, and minus 2 years earnings? I recall some shananagans with management at Continental after age 65 occurred and their ability to get their moneys from the A fund.
I am more than skeptical that age 67 would be good for the profession, and good for the pilots.
ALPA should survey the membership on this.
I don't want to see another backdoor (and a big back room) program from Fred Abbott, to Fred Stankovich, to Bobby Sturgel with assistance from John Prater, and the friends of fred instructor and check airman (senior pilots coalition) club ever again. The entire thing was a disgrace to the profession, to ALPA, and to the CAL ALPA MEC and to the CAL pilots. Shame on ALPA and the backroom deal makers. Shame on ALPA for not pursuing the grievance.
Further........and this is important.
what would the company's attitude be toward retiring say...."early" at say....age 65 be? would we be financially penalized in anyway, other than minus 2 years in the program, and minus 2 years earnings? I recall some shananagans with management at Continental after age 65 occurred and their ability to get their moneys from the A fund.
I am more than skeptical that age 67 would be good for the profession, and good for the pilots.
ALPA should survey the membership on this.
I don't want to see another backdoor (and a big back room) program from Fred Abbott, to Fred Stankovich, to Bobby Sturgel with assistance from John Prater, and the friends of fred instructor and check airman (senior pilots coalition) club ever again. The entire thing was a disgrace to the profession, to ALPA, and to the CAL ALPA MEC and to the CAL pilots. Shame on ALPA and the backroom deal makers. Shame on ALPA for not pursuing the grievance.
07-26-2015 | 05:49 PM
#64
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No matter how bad I had it on reserve as the 8-ball for two years... Thousands had it way worse. For me it was actually enjoyable. Never had to bid anything, never had to check where I was on the reserve list...and I got tons of free meals & drinks 😎😜
07-26-2015 | 06:41 PM
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From: B767/757 Capt
07-28-2015 | 11:36 AM
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Promises
At my new-hire dinner in 99, the kool-aide was being poured out and they said it was likely I'd be a captain in 3-5 years. United was as good as their word, after only three years I held the left seat (in a Citation during furlough number one).
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07-28-2015 | 11:51 AM
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CAL same. Furloughed to a left seat in 2003.
07-29-2015 | 12:38 PM
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07-31-2015 | 07:07 PM
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From: They have more than one?
Serious question, flame as you see fit. I continually read 'bad things' about the airline industry. I'm about to complete my AD commitment and have planned on trying for a job at one of the majors, but the comm seems so negative. No one has a crystal ball, but overall would you do it again? Knowing what you know now and what is likely to occur (war, economic down turn) based on historical averages, is it a positive outcome?
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