Summary of UAL pilot hiring & career advice
08-05-2015 | 12:57 PM
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Even guys in top jobs are applying to the airlines, having a schedule is a huge QOL issue and is what makes the airline career so attractive.
08-05-2015 | 02:02 PM
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Hey Liberty,
Your ambition and eagerness is great, but I think you are overthinking this.
The majors don't know which flight departments are good and which are bad. They don't know if flying a citation X or GIV is more prestigious. They know total time, PIC time and additional duties AKA director of safety, chief pilot, etc. At the regionals or in the military they are more opportunities to put extra stuff on your resume. Even trivial "special projects" stuff counts.
I think that the 121 badge would help, but an additional title at your current job would be as beneficial, even if it's unpaid.
My $.02
Your ambition and eagerness is great, but I think you are overthinking this.
The majors don't know which flight departments are good and which are bad. They don't know if flying a citation X or GIV is more prestigious. They know total time, PIC time and additional duties AKA director of safety, chief pilot, etc. At the regionals or in the military they are more opportunities to put extra stuff on your resume. Even trivial "special projects" stuff counts.
I think that the 121 badge would help, but an additional title at your current job would be as beneficial, even if it's unpaid.
My $.02
08-05-2015 | 02:16 PM
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08-05-2015 | 03:17 PM
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Hey Liberty,
Your ambition and eagerness is great, but I think you are overthinking this.
The majors don't know which flight departments are good and which are bad. They don't know if flying a citation X or GIV is more prestigious. They know total time, PIC time and additional duties AKA director of safety, chief pilot, etc. At the regionals or in the military they are more opportunities to put extra stuff on your resume. Even trivial "special projects" stuff counts.
I think that the 121 badge would help, but an additional title at your current job would be as beneficial, even if it's unpaid.
My $.02
Your ambition and eagerness is great, but I think you are overthinking this.
The majors don't know which flight departments are good and which are bad. They don't know if flying a citation X or GIV is more prestigious. They know total time, PIC time and additional duties AKA director of safety, chief pilot, etc. At the regionals or in the military they are more opportunities to put extra stuff on your resume. Even trivial "special projects" stuff counts.
I think that the 121 badge would help, but an additional title at your current job would be as beneficial, even if it's unpaid.
My $.02
08-05-2015 | 04:00 PM
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But you better make sure the hiring folks can find some info on your flight department on the interwebz or they may think twice about calling you. 😉
08-05-2015 | 07:11 PM
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Of course, ALPA forgets about the [corporate/fractional/charter] 91/135 guys in their charts as ALPA thinks that the only civilian pilots are ex-ERAU, current Part 121 pukes.
My new hire [Continental] class in 2007 had quite a few 91/135 guys in it. Not sure why everyone thinks that 135 guys don't have college degrees
My new hire [Continental] class in 2007 had quite a few 91/135 guys in it. Not sure why everyone thinks that 135 guys don't have college degrees
08-05-2015 | 07:34 PM
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Of course, ALPA forgets about the [corporate/fractional/charter] 91/135 guys in their charts as ALPA thinks that the only civilian pilots are ex-ERAU, current Part 121 pukes.
My new hire [Continental] class in 2007 had quite a few 91/135 guys in it. Not sure why everyone thinks that 135 guys don't have college degrees
My new hire [Continental] class in 2007 had quite a few 91/135 guys in it. Not sure why everyone thinks that 135 guys don't have college degrees
As far as the military/civilian/121/135/91 thing, it's always been airline specific. Usually the quality of the airline dictates the pool and the quality of the hires but when times get tough anything goes.
08-06-2015 | 06:18 AM
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Yes, the 570 were likely some of the best hired at UAL. As it turns out many from that group will have long careers at United. With the FAA age changes, quiet a few will have 40+ years and dominating the top of the seniority list for some time. 
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