Elimination of the Simulator Requirement
08-12-2015 | 04:59 AM
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Some of you may not know that back in the 1999-2001 hiring there was no sim. They had a technical portion during the panel interview instead.
United was well know for the "mental math" problems they gave in the interview.
A buddy just did contract sim training in the 737 sim they use for interviews a few weeks ago. United told his instructors the two 737 sims will be gone in two months.
United was well know for the "mental math" problems they gave in the interview.
A buddy just did contract sim training in the 737 sim they use for interviews a few weeks ago. United told his instructors the two 737 sims will be gone in two months.
08-12-2015 | 05:16 AM
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Some of you may not know that back in the 1999-2001 hiring there was no sim. They had a technical portion during the panel interview instead.
United was well know for the "mental math" problems they gave in the interview.
A buddy just did contract sim training in the 737 sim they use for interviews a few weeks ago. United told his instructors the two 737 sims will be gone in two months.
United was well know for the "mental math" problems they gave in the interview.
A buddy just did contract sim training in the 737 sim they use for interviews a few weeks ago. United told his instructors the two 737 sims will be gone in two months.
08-12-2015 | 08:00 AM
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While every pilot who steps in to the sim knows how to fly.. so did every pilot/crew that has ever been involved in an accident or incident.
(IMO) What the sim interview brings is- can this individual learn the callouts and flow within a short time period, can they handle 2 or 3 things at once, how do they handle a strange stressful environment while under the eyes of someone.. and lastly, there's the CRM aspect.
Only those in the hiring department know the answer.. but, wonder how many are not getting through the sim portion?
Obviously the Hogan Test seems to be taking out (good?!) applicants. How many get shot down during the interview? and lastly.. the sim.
I would rather see less weight on the Hogan, more on personal recs.. and keep the panel and sim. But that's just me.
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PS> Every NH I've flown with has had a great attitude and been a quick/good learner. From the ASA FO (ex intern) to the retired USMC Col (ex Hornets). But there are also some pilots I flew with back in the regional & military days that I know would have a hard time getting through all 3 phases of our interview process. Lets keep it at 3 phases.. just weighed differently~
While every pilot who steps in to the sim knows how to fly.. so did every pilot/crew that has ever been involved in an accident or incident.
(IMO) What the sim interview brings is- can this individual learn the callouts and flow within a short time period, can they handle 2 or 3 things at once, how do they handle a strange stressful environment while under the eyes of someone.. and lastly, there's the CRM aspect.
Only those in the hiring department know the answer.. but, wonder how many are not getting through the sim portion?
Obviously the Hogan Test seems to be taking out (good?!) applicants. How many get shot down during the interview? and lastly.. the sim.
I would rather see less weight on the Hogan, more on personal recs.. and keep the panel and sim. But that's just me.
Always
Motch
PS> Every NH I've flown with has had a great attitude and been a quick/good learner. From the ASA FO (ex intern) to the retired USMC Col (ex Hornets). But there are also some pilots I flew with back in the regional & military days that I know would have a hard time getting through all 3 phases of our interview process. Lets keep it at 3 phases.. just weighed differently~
08-12-2015 | 10:15 AM
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The sim is BS. Pay $1500 to get the gouge is BS. Hiring should be based on resume and recommendations. Anybody who comes from a regional has been trained in CRM. Anyone who comes from the military with a background in crew aircraft is trained in CRM. Anyone who comes from the military with a fighter background can be trained to to do anything.
08-12-2015 | 12:02 PM
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The sim is BS. Pay $1500 to get the gouge is BS. Hiring should be based on resume and recommendations. Anybody who comes from a regional has been trained in CRM. Anyone who comes from the military with a background in crew aircraft is trained in CRM. Anyone who comes from the military with a fighter background can be trained to to do anything.
08-12-2015 | 11:24 PM
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08-13-2015 | 12:47 AM
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The sim is needed. right now we do have high time people coming in. flew with a new hire that had about 2000 TT. I think we need it for that reason.
also, in about 5 years from now, what will the average new hire applicant have in his or her logbook?
Keep the sim.
also, in about 5 years from now, what will the average new hire applicant have in his or her logbook?
Keep the sim.
08-13-2015 | 08:18 PM
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"Anyone who comes from the military with a fighter background can be trained to to do anything"
So it's true, fighter pilots need more training.
All this talk about who's the most qualified makes me nauseous. Here's what counts, if you got hired you met the criteria of the day.
So it's true, fighter pilots need more training.
All this talk about who's the most qualified makes me nauseous. Here's what counts, if you got hired you met the criteria of the day.
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