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Old 09-08-2015 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Don't you mean Dave Barger?
In United's most wet dream.

Nope sorry you get Oscar Munoz - he comes to you with a wealth of knowledge in......wait for it.....Trains, Telephones, and Soft Drinks!

He has been a board member at Inited for a while though. Basically, they booted out Smisek and nominated one of themselves.
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Old 09-08-2015 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin
How long will it take before the Lual folks decide they don't like the new CEO?
Really? We're going to make this about L UAL vs ExCons on page 2? Ok I'll play lol

I guess about as long is it took us to figure many of L CAL were SCAB sympathizers and slick tie scab wannabes
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Old 09-08-2015 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
In United's most wet dream.

Nope sorry you get Oscar Munoz - he comes to you with a wealth of knowledge in......wait for it.....Trains!
I'm a jetBlue guy and I don't wish Barger on my worst enemy......
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Old 09-08-2015 | 05:45 PM
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I'm a Unitarian (LUA) and I don't care where he came from....I view it with the hope it is a breath of fresh air.

I think if there is a single way to sum JS: no one trusted him, because you felt he was saying one thing, but really doing something else.

I don't know OM from Adam, but even in one communique, I have a sense that he seems a lot more honest than JS.

And I get the feeling he actually cares about the business a little, and not just the stock price.

Yes, I know he is still the President of CSX railroad (by the quick search I did), and he sits on about five different boards...like all the ultra-rich.

But I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the moment, I'm guardedly optimistic, for Unitarians, and my brother Caledonians.
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Old 09-08-2015 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I'm a jetBlue guy and I don't wish Barger on my worst enemy......
Barger was a bad guy?
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Old 09-08-2015 | 06:03 PM
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Wow..Reminds me of that crybaby Sean Menke that came to Pinnacle for a brief moment, cried on a conference call about being underpaid, gave himself a 600k dollar raise and then filed bankruptcy a few days later on April fools day. Then he bailed a month later with his golden chute.
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Old 09-08-2015 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
I'm a Unitarian (LUA) and I don't care where he came from....I view it with the hope it is a breath of fresh air.

I think if there is a single way to sum JS: no one trusted him, because you felt he was saying one thing, but really doing something else.

I don't know OM from Adam, but even in one communique, I have a sense that he seems a lot more honest than JS.

And I get the feeling he actually cares about the business a little, and not just the stock price.

Yes, I know he is still the President of CSX railroad (by the quick search I did), and he sits on about five different boards...like all the ultra-rich.

But I'm willing to give him a chance, and at the moment, I'm guardedly optimistic, for Unitarians, and my brother Caledonians.
I wish I could be even that, but I'm not. The whole premise of new mgmt. now was not on the fact that the ENTIRE enterprise is dysfunctional in all aspects and needed fixing yesterday. If THAT were the case, then I would be cautiously optimistic. No, it was because the Company sees major legal and ethics issues on the near horizon. Sigh.

It will be more of the same, I fear. To make me a believer I need to see:
-A F/A and Mechanic contract in 3-6 months.
-HR atmosphere less authoritarian/intimidating (get out of Flt Ops!)
-Give employees the TOOLS to do their job properly.
e.g. CS hands are mostly tied when dealing with customer issues.

IOW, STOP micromanaging the employees. Let them be free to solve issues as they arise instead of making them afraid to make decisions on their own.

This really has been one of the biggest differences between the two legacy mgmt styles. Even though Oscar and Henry are LCAL, I truly hope they are more enlightened than the others.

Hoping for the best nonetheless.


Edit: One huge positive. Mr. Munoz, apparently, is not a lawyer
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Old 09-08-2015 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
So he gets paid $4,800,000 to get fired?
Welcome to America. Where people get scammed right under their very noses and don't do a thing about it. What's worse is those people responsible for the 'recession' and taking multi million doar bonuses rather than being carted off to prison.
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Old 09-08-2015 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin
How long will it take before the Lual folks decide they don't like the new CEO?
I don't think it's a matter of liking him, it's more a matter of respecting him. He'll have to earn that.

Question: Did most of the LCAL people like Jeff?
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Old 09-08-2015 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
Wow..Reminds me of that crybaby Sean Menke that came to Pinnacle for a brief moment, cried on a conference call about being underpaid, gave himself a 600k dollar raise and then filed bankruptcy a few days later on April fools day. Then he bailed a month later with his golden chute.
You forgot the 4th quarter when the huge push was made to save APU time/usage. In the end we saved $300,000. In Jan/Feb they announced $300,000 worth in bonuses for management. Score!
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