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krudawg 10-01-2015 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA (Post 1980290)
Allow me...I'll be very quick.

The industry with the final three "legacies" and Southwest, is consolidated and fiercely competitive. No surviving management group at any surviving company is going to bless a deal that would put them at a competitive disadvantage with their industry peer companies. With an approximate +20% domestic market share at each of the four survivors, it minimizes the leverage obtainable from the NMB in a Sec 6 negotiation...too much potential for too much disruption. The MEC's likely did the best they could under consolidated circumstances.

There are a number of other issues related to your observation, but that's enough (no one reads this stuff anyways:)).

I truly wish you the best in Sec 6.

Ah here's a thought, the Economic Data for the United States is pointing towards some hard times ahead. Airline Management wants to avoid a "rich" contract with an economy that's slowing down.

JoePatroni 10-01-2015 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 1983549)
Ah here's a thought, the Economic Data for the United States is pointing towards some hard times ahead. Airline Management wants to avoid a "rich" contract with an economy that's slowing down.

Of course, putting $3 billion dollars in the bank instead of buying back shares may also have been a good idea but why pass up a chance to blame it on the employees?

krudawg 10-01-2015 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 1983631)
Of course, putting $3 billion dollars in the bank instead of buying back shares may also have been a good idea but why pass up a chance to blame it on the employees?

I can't argue with you on that point. Thanks Joe

Blockoutblockin 10-01-2015 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 1983637)
I can't argue with you on that point. Thanks Joe

Joe has always been the voice of reason. As an aside, I'm not buying into this "uh oh, things don't look good down the road BS!!" This thread is nothing more than wide body captains fearful of upsetting the apple cart. Been there done that. Go pound sand!!!!

oldmako 10-01-2015 06:36 PM

Golly, this is such a great job, I'd just about do it for free!!

Oh, wait. I already did that. How much did GT make? How much did PM make? How much did JS make?

FUPM

Scrappy 10-01-2015 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1983690)
Golly, this is such a great job, I'd just about do it for free!!

Oh, wait. I already did that. How much did GT make? How much did PM make? How much did JS make?

FUPM

This is a great gig. No one said doing it for free or we don't deserve more for our services. Apples to oranges.

oldmako 10-01-2015 07:40 PM

It WAS a great gig. Now, not so much. I'll readily allow that it still beats hawking fruit or roofing, but adjusted for inflation, we are the biggest group of fraidy-cat blue collar *****s out there.

AllenAllert 10-02-2015 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Scrappy (Post 1983729)
This is a great gig. No one said doing it for free or we don't deserve more for our services. Apples to oranges.


You have to have had a good gig to know what a bad gig is - I guess to some the merger and it's aftermath was an improvement but that does not make it a good gig.

Scrappy 10-02-2015 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 1983923)
You have to have had a good gig to know what a bad gig is - I guess to some the merger and it's aftermath was an improvement but that does not make it a good gig.

Certainly no improvement on my part. Especially having to deal with some of the poor attitudes. But I certainly enjoy the job...just as I did prior to the merger.

flybynuts 10-02-2015 04:10 PM

+1 Scrappy.


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