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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 1984789)
I will definitely concede some of those points. However, the original idea was about the global economy and how it translates to the national economy. I see the economy contracting despite some other positive points that I pointed out. You also pointed out some good points.
From both a national security stand point and an economic stand point overall I would say we are worse off. But, Obama I would say this regarding B fund, and Known crew member...... ALPA bought and paid for KCM and my negotiators paid for the B fund with negotiating capital. FAR 117 has been in the works since 2005, of which I was an original working group member appointed by ALPA. It took a long time to pull that off. My best year under Clinton was $24K, and my guard unit down-sized from 24 to 15 PAA, so I wasn't all that crazy about Mr. Arkansas. It does seem that the economy grows stronger under Republican leadership though. Mostly due to regulations and tax policy. |
I'll keep my religion, my money, and my guns. You keep the change.
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Alright then. Wheew Hoooo. NASCAR!
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"viola" what does an oversized fiddle have to do with anything?
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Originally Posted by jsled
(Post 1984935)
Only point on the B Fund was the fact that the DOW has increased by about 10,000 since March 2009. A very impressive run. As for KCM, ALPA has been working on that for over a decade. (Remember Crew Pass). The point being, it took a labor friendly Administration to make it happen. As for FAR 117, it is regulation. Not an easy sell during a Republican admin. But when the President appoints a former union chief to run the FAA...viola.
Labor has made all the gains that labor is going to make from a regulation stand point for a very long time. I've seen too many domestic jobs being shipped overseas for my liking. I've had too many family members lose their jobs because their industry or their profession can make the "widget" or product cheaper in Mexico or China. Why do those companies leave the USA? I am told by them who hear it from their management that the regulatory enviornment and the cost of doing business here is both too onerous and too expensive so they move their businesses overseas. Combine that with tax policy and we can see why jobs are leaving and continue to leave. If businesses had an incentive or even a reason to stay, or could compete equally and fairly with foreign competition they would stay in the USA. Maytag is now made in Mexico. Cars that used to be made in the great democratic stronghold of Detroit are made overseas. I want to see jobs in the USA. Manufacturing in the USA. A higher quality of life in the USA. I think jobs and services and product manufacturing are outsourced because of onerous and often ridiculous regulation, and taxes. We know that businesses have to make a profit. Pretty soon we'll see robots at McDonalds. Those jobs just get eliminated. That's what I am talking about. When these jobs get eliminated or moved overseas they are gone forever. So that has a very negative impact on our economy and the lives of those who used to make that product. The real unemployment rate (labor participation rate) tells the story. Those jobs are gone, and those that are now unemployed won't be buying a ticket on united to go from Chicago to Orlando to go see Mickey Mouse this summer. They will be at a job fair or going back to school to learn how to study hotel and restaurant management or trying to compete with the illegal foreign labor who is out doing manual labor that our under-educated and high school dropouts used to perform. Heck, even our high school drop outs can't compete for grass cutting and lawn care jobs anymore. Hard to under-cut and out price the foreign competition. Our economy needs a catalyst to grow and a favorable climate to compete in. Not only for the financial health of the airline industry in the USA, but for all of the industries in the USA. All of those employed who have jobs are potential United customers and they can't spend money they don't have - unless Obama gives them vouchers for free and subsidized airline travel. |
Originally Posted by UALinIAH
(Post 1984809)
What part of the economy are you talking here? Look at the umemployment rates under Republican presidents in the last 25-30 years and compare that to under Democrats. Yes the military gets cutbacks but I wouldn't say we're less safe. How much did Bush II cost this country in dollars and lives going into Iraq when they had nothing to do with 9/11? Under who's watch was OBL killed? Just saying I don't believe the Fox news scare mantra of Dems being weak on national security.
But, Obama created and gave birth to ISIS. And if he wasn't so scared of his own shadow I'd bet the seals could go out and take them out too. Obama: Crimean Peninsula annexation Obama: Nukes for Iran Obama: Failed African foreign policy Obama: Failed Arab Spring Obama: Failed Arab Winter Obama: Failed middle east foreign policy Obama: Failed at leading NATO to push back soviet aggression Obama: Failed Syrian foreign policy Obama: Created new axis of evil (Syria-Russia-Iran) Obama: IRS Scandal Obama: AP wire tapping Obama: Boston Terrorist Obama: Dream Act/Illegal immigration continues unabated/increased Obama: Solyndra Obama: Fast and Furious Obama: Obamacare: 716 Billion raided from Medicare Obama: 49 million Americans on Foodstamps (WOW!) Obama: Americans IN POVERTY!!! 7.2 million!!!! Obama: family income and buying power down 40 percent Obama: Americans out of work 23 million Obama: National Debt 19ish trillion Obama: Failed Isreal foreign policy Obama: every child born in USA owes $3500.00 share of national debt. Obama: Sanctuary cities Obama: fails to enforce US National drug laws (Washington and Colorado get high) Obama: I almost forgot: He allowed our Secretary of State to conduct classified business in her lavatory. Anyone else with a security clearance would be in jail and or dishonorably discharged. This whole Benghazi thing is 100 percent Obama's fault. So, great Hoo-ray for the Nobel peace prize winning senator-dude from Chicago. He hasn't kept the peace, maintained any peace and is single-handedly responsible for the largest exodus and migration of war refugees since WWII. What a champion, What a dude! I don't see many folks naming their kids Barack Hussein Johnson these days. And I certainly doubt it if a ship ever gets named after him and I hope I never have to land at Barrack Hussein Obama International airport. I don't see how our national economy can ever recover if we keep up with this free money policy of the FED and keep printing money. I think Obama believes money really does grow on trees. Both from an economic point of view and an individual/family point of view. It's all about entitlements and the nanny state. Farmers know you reap what you sow. I teach my kids you earn what you get and you get what you earn. Obama wants me to earn it, me to pay for it, and wants to tax me to death so I have to give it all away. Big deal I get a pay raise: It just goes to pay down the debt and pay for more freebies to people who haven't earned it. I'd like my buying power to actually go up. My pay raises under the new contract are great, but they aren't enough to keep up with inflation or where the taxes are headed if elect another liberal or socialist democrat. Thats the fact jack and you can put that in your Colorado dope pipe and smoke it (figuratively speaking of course) |
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Obama: Crimean Peninsula annexation
Obama: Nukes for Iran Obama: Failed African foreign policy Obama: Failed Arab Spring Obama: Failed Arab Winter Obama: Failed middle east foreign policy Obama: Failed at leading NATO to push back soviet aggression Obama: Failed Syrian foreign policy Obama: Created new axis of evil (Syria-Russia-Iran) Obama: IRS Scandal Obama: AP wire tapping Obama: Boston Terrorist Obama: Dream Act/Illegal immigration continues unabated/increased Obama: Solyndra Obama: Fast and Furious Obama: Obamacare: 716 Billion raided from Medicare Obama: 49 million Americans on Foodstamps (WOW!) Obama: Americans IN POVERTY!!! 7.2 million!!!! Obama: family income and buying power down 40 percent Obama: Americans out of work 23 million Obama: National Debt 19ish trillion Obama: Failed Isreal foreign policy Obama: every child born in USA owes $3500.00 share of national debt. Obama: Sanctuary cities Obama: fails to enforce US National drug laws (Washington and Colorado get high) Obama: I almost forgot: He allowed our Secretary of State to conduct classified business" Dude, seriously, turn off Fox News. I promise your level of false outrage will then diminish. |
Fox News? You can get this info from just about any source.
Don't forget race relations at a 40 year low. Economy: weakest "recovery" in history. On brink of another recession. Foreign policies? Laughable: alienating our allies and emboldening our enemies Obutthole is indefensible. Going to go down as words potus ever! |
Originally Posted by Bestglide
(Post 1985900)
Fox News? You can get this info from just about any source.
Don't forget race relations at a 40 year low. Economy: weakest "recovery" in history. On brink of another recession. Foreign policies? Laughable: alienating our allies and emboldening our enemies Obutthole is indefensible. Going to go down as words potus ever! |
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