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I have been thinking about this thread. SWA has been in Section 6 since 2012. Several others are prior to 2010. Who has the leverage here? The minute that we go past the amendable date of the contract, all the leverage is in the hands of the companies. Eventually, we cave on a substandard contract because we are tired of being underpaid.
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Past the amenable date I can't help but think there's subtle unorganized loss of enthusiasm on the part of many. Not a formal or organized withdrawal of enthusiasm, but just less anxious to carry the company water. I think it's enough to show in the metrics and I'd hope it is part of the motivation for the company to negotiate.
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Originally Posted by APC225
(Post 2007579)
Past the amenable date I can't help but think there's subtle unorganized loss of enthusiasm on the part of many. Not a formal or organized withdrawal of enthusiasm, but just less anxious to carry the company water. I think it's enough to show in the metrics and I'd hope it is part of the motivation for the company to negotiate.
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Agree. It feels like a constant tipping point. They still can't get our pay right and so many other constant irritants. There hasn't been what felt like a smooth patch since the merger. It feels like we're in the endgame and we haven't even started yet.
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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2007605)
Right. But, for me...I already have a loss of enthusiasm. This entire operation just sucks the life out of me. I feel like I have to do too many people's jobs. Load Plan, dispatch, scheduling, CCO times, irregular operations, maintenance bafoonery, aircraft servicing, etc. This entire operation hinges on pilots taking up everyone's slack the entire time the aircraft is on the ground. And we do this while fighting windmills and having to put up with petty "why did the CA add fuel" crapp, and then we've got to continually re-learn our jobs because we can't just stick with a standardized way of operating. It's the Yo-Yo effect every other month. It takes me forever to read up on all these pilot bulletins. Most of them are stupid and don't make us better or more efficient.
That sounds exhausting. I've been sitting at home for 6 days. RSV is fat in DEN. Guarantee when/if they do call, I won't be doing anybody's job but my own. ;) Who says RSV sucks??!! |
Originally Posted by jsled
(Post 2007665)
That sounds exhausting. I've been sitting at home for 6 days. RSV is fat in DEN. Guarantee when/if they do call, I won't be doing anybody's job but my own. ;) Who says RSV sucks??!!
Haven't landed since Aug, or been to work since first week of Sept..... LOVE RSV.... A LOT of Trips given for OE, and buying trips to consolidate... My yard looks good, and my kids are loving it! |
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
(Post 2007681)
LIKE!!!
Haven't landed since Aug, or been to work since first week of Sept..... LOVE RSV.... A LOT of Trips given for OE, and buying trips to consolidate... My yard looks good, and my kids are loving it! |
Originally Posted by jsled
(Post 2007715)
Awesome. Good to hear!
But, hold the SC's and FSB's please. |
Those other people dont get paid enough to bother doing it.
Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2007605)
Right. But, for me...I already have a loss of enthusiasm. This entire operation just sucks the life out of me. I feel like I have to do too many people's jobs. Load Plan, dispatch, scheduling, CCO times, irregular operations, maintenance bafoonery, aircraft servicing, etc. This entire operation hinges on pilots taking up everyone's slack the entire time the aircraft is on the ground. And we do this while fighting windmills and having to put up with petty "why did the CA add fuel" crapp, and then we've got to continually re-learn our jobs because we can't just stick with a standardized way of operating. It's the Yo-Yo effect every other month. It takes me forever to read up on all these pilot bulletins. Most of them are stupid and don't make us better or more efficient.
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Baseball got me tired out by just reading the post.
Why did the Captain add fuel? Because he/she can. Any more questions? When they added that memo to the FP one of my F/Os complained to me about it. As I was adding fuel I said, "So what it won't change my thinking one bit. " His reply, "It will some." |
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