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Probe 11-20-2015 11:13 AM

We have leverage right now. I hope we, as a union, us that leverage. Will we have the same leverage in 2 years? Who knows.

I hope we choose to keep moving the ball forward now, instead of hoping and dreaming that we can move it forward in 2-6 years.

IADBLRJ41 11-20-2015 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2014218)
We have leverage right now. I hope we, as a union, us that leverage. Will we have the same leverage in 2 years? Who knows.

I hope we choose to keep moving the ball forward now, instead of hoping and dreaming that we can move it forward in 2-6 years.


+1... Agreed

Pro2nd 11-20-2015 12:00 PM

So when would this 2 year extension become amendable? 2 years from this January or 3 years from this January which is 2 years from original amendable date?

Sniper66 11-20-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro2nd (Post 2014249)
So when would this 2 year extension become amendable? 2 years from this January or 3 years from this January which is 2 years from original amendable date?





No extension no raise no 100 seat jet !!!!!
They will meet again around March 1st 2016 for a full blown section 6 negotiations!

News will be known by the end of business day today!


I take this as great news!!

El Guapo 11-20-2015 12:15 PM

Extension or not, they can get a 100 seat jet. They don't need us to agree to an extension for that.

cadetdrivr 11-20-2015 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by El Guapo (Post 2014258)
Extension or not, they can get a 100 seat jet. They don't need us to agree to an extension for that.

This.

Granted, they may be interested in firmly establishing a CS100 rate as the UPA only specifically mentions the CS300 but there is an existing mechanism in the UPA to do that outside of a full contract negotiation.

IMHO, the company obviously wants something else and a new small jet is just a shiny object to divert focus and dangle in front of the more gullible. It's probably not a coincidence that there was a CS100 parked in the UAL MX hanger in ORD yesterday with small UA decals stuck on the side.

SteelerNation 11-20-2015 01:25 PM

Rumor control post. I Heard the union caved on reserve rules. (No penalty for SC's and FS's greater than 2 for a 13% DOS and 3% next 2 years. Essentially removing LC reserve from the equation. I am sure this is a small part of the whole deal, but if this is remotely true, it is a no vote here. If anyone can shed more light, it would obviously be welcomed. Thx...

cadetdrivr 11-20-2015 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by SteelerNation (Post 2014292)
f anyone can shed more light, it would obviously be welcomed. Thx...

If true, that would certainly be the opposite of "Reserve assignment process improvements," IMHO.

SteelerNation 11-20-2015 01:33 PM

If true,that by any definition is a concession...

Short Bus Drive 11-20-2015 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2014297)
If true, that would certainly be the opposite of "Reserve assignment process improvements," IMHO.

Those "reserve assignment process improvements" are for the company.

I am sure there are some that will take the increase in pay in exchange for it.
(The ones that don't sit reserve).


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