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Dave Fitzgerald 11-19-2015 07:57 PM

Pay Raise or no?
 
Tomorrow is the day. Wonder which way it will go? :rolleyes:

oldmako 11-19-2015 08:08 PM

Are you trolling Dave? ;)

I'd much rather have an improved agreement down the road than a few bucks and a tube of KY next week.

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worstpilotever 11-19-2015 08:26 PM

KY is spendy....dont underestimate what that could be worth

Mitch Rapp05 11-19-2015 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 2013928)
Tomorrow is the day. Wonder which way it will go? :rolleyes:

According to posts on both of the other forums, we are "close" and should expect a special MEC meeting on Monday.

dvhighdrive88 11-20-2015 04:24 AM

With the stellar information sharing we get I'd say right out of the gate they lock away 10-15% no votes on a deal of the century just by people not giving a crap anymore. Amazing how much we pay into this Union to get treated like a mushroom.

Probe 11-20-2015 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2013933)
Are you trolling Dave? ;)

I'd much rather have an improved agreement down the road than a few bucks and a tube of KY next week.

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How do you know things will be better down the road? I am 100% sure they will be different. But I wouldn't bet they will be better or worse.

Actually, I predict worse. And truthfully, I am betting on it.

SpecialTracking 11-20-2015 05:55 AM

Although quite subjective, how much money will the company save on the non negotiated items by extending this contract? How much will the company operationally profit from the negotiated items on this extension?

Those are the numbers I would like to see before I consider an extension.

jsled 11-20-2015 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2014007)
How do you know things will be better down the road? I am 100% sure they will be different. But I wouldn't bet they will be better or worse.

Actually, I predict worse. And truthfully, I am betting on it.

That's a pretty safe bet. History tells the cyclical nature of our industry and our economy. The next down turn is coming. There are scope busting aircraft orders at Skywest, Trans States, and Republic just waiting for the opportunity. There are mega widebody orders over at the ME3. There could be plenty of pilots available to fly them after the next round of furloughs. We should take all we can get while we can get it! NOW. Then prepare to KEEP it no matter what. If we go into Sect 6 and the next downturn comes upon us...we get nothing.

Dave Fitzgerald 11-20-2015 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2013933)
Are you trolling Dave? ;)

I'd much rather have an improved agreement down the road than a few bucks and a tube of KY next week.

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Yes, I suppose. In a weak moment. Just wondering which way it will go. I do not support the extension for reasons already stated.

I agree about KY--which can be fun if used well in the right.....hands, but remember, it's not the destination, it's all about the journey.

Yes, the future will be different. :D

Mitch Rapp05 11-20-2015 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2014065)
That's a pretty safe bet. History tells the cyclical nature of our industry and our economy. The next down turn is coming. There are scope busting aircraft orders at Skywest, Trans States, and Republic just waiting for the opportunity. There are mega widebody orders over at the ME3. There could be plenty of pilots available to fly them after the next round of furloughs. We should take all we can get while we can get it! NOW. Then prepare to KEEP it no matter what. If we go into Sect 6 and the next downturn comes upon us...we get nothing.

Great post jsled. It's about time you start agreeing with me ;)


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