Can you please direct us to who said that? Because I've read most of what is posted on this topic and I don't recall of a single poster that wants wholesale changes to reserves at the expense of any other pilot or group. Most seem to only want modest improvements that will cost the company nearly zip, and their fellow pilots nothing. I'm just trying to figure out why you choose to be so divisive on this topic.

My Grandparents never had any childhood inoculations, should I deny them to my kids as well?

Not a RSV pilot

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You are so out of touch that makes me question your abilities to be a Buscappy!!!

It has been leaked by many union people involved. 13% on current rates and an additional 3% on 1/2016.

I'm a 2013 hire, spent 6 months on reserve, last 2 years holding a line as a commuter and now awarded a BES where I live and will be on reserve for quite a while. Seeing as how most negotiations take a while and we are not giving in on anything like scope, I can live with current reserve rules for 20K a year extra. That is real money, locked in immediately, for everyone. If we want better reserve rules, we will likely have to give something up for it. Nothing is free in negotiations.

The days of cost neutral contracts are over. How do you think mature contracts evolved over 70 years before the major airlines gutted them vis a vis a bankruptcy judge? I'm not up for taking substandard contract, reshuffling the deck chairs and ending up with another substandard contract.

Mature contracts like the TA at Delta where sick leave and profit sharing were gutted to pay for the raise?

Or at American where my buddy says that even with higher pay rates in their "mature contract" that their definition of a day means I make more than him on a similar plane, similar longevity for a four day trip.

Where they had the chutzpah to vote it down. Management is still holding in this bankruptcy fairyland.

Welcome to United and congratulations on getting hired.

Before you got here we paid dearly for far more that what we currently have. With a gun to our heads, we caved during our (LUAL) bankruptcy. Our new friends from CAL paid dearly as well during their bankruptcies and throughout the post Lorenzo years.

The pilots at DAL also went through bankruptcy. They were rewarded with a significant chunk of equity in their new airline. Since then, their profit sharing checks have been roughly 4-5 times the size of ours. Meanwhile, Jeff told us that we weren't entitled to any equity in the new U because we hadn't sacrificed anything.

Most pilots that I know are unwilling to give up anything at this point. The concession stand was closed when the principals in Willis awarded themselves massive multi-million dollar bonuses while the airline smoldered both on the line and in the press. The stand was then bulldozed when they announced the 3B stock buyback. The company needs something so badly that they were willing to do a deal in just weeks - WITH the head honcho in the hospital! 4BILLION in profits this year alone. They're flush. We're stupid.

Please wear you pin and don't volunteer to work on either the grievance or negotiation committees. ;)

I would have voted NO WAY on the DAL contract. And in a firm yes on ours. Goes to show that Section 6 may not be the positive alternative many No voters here assume