Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2038824)

I believe they get paid double to fly on holidays. Or at least some premium. I doubt a FRA trip would go to a reserve on a holiday unless IROPs happened.

Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2038830)

Premium pay for them to work on their birthdays also.

Originally Posted by skippy (Post 2038870)

No voters are gaining momentum, just sayin.
IT aint over and i wont concede u til after the vote closes.
Huge no push from the widebody guys, both fo and captains who see the differences inmthe current operation of,what will happen etc.

Originally Posted by skippy (Post 2038870)

No voters are gaining momentum, just sayin.
IT aint over and i wont concede u til after the vote closes.
Huge no push from the widebody guys, both fo and captains who see the differences inmthe current operation of,what will happen etc.

Originally Posted by Kilder (Post 2033287)

Excellent summary of what??

This is an extension of the best contract of any major...have you looked at Deltas and Americans work rules???

This is an extension that gives us the pay plus the same profit sharing we have now...a year before the TA becomes amendable...and before we go to protracted section 6 negotiations...this TA puts us ahead of all our peers NOW...not 3 or 4 years from now...

Instead some of you here want to throw the dice on an idea that we can get above the 18% we are getting plus make up what we will lose in lost earnings from now until we sign your Unicorn contract....Unicorns don't exist...this TA exist...it is real...it is here..now...wake up!!!

Originally Posted by skippy (Post 2038870)

No voters are gaining momentum, just sayin.

Originally Posted by Junior Varsity (Post 2039325)

Hear, Hear! Explain to me how an extension will harm our way of life for the next 3-years?

Do folks actually believe the company will make our contract a priority before 2018 if we vote "No"?

We have a contract...they are offering an extension that addresses our previously Furlough brothers/sisters, some pay and a few other things. Nothing is perfect, but maybe as unified pilot group during the next round will finally bring "sunshines, lollipops and rainbows."

Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 2039369)

Our previously furloughed brothers and sisters will get paid. I think it's immoral to use them as a pawn. First during the jcba/sli and now for this. We're being played like a fiddle.

Oh, and we'll get'em next time. Sure thing money bags.

Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 2039396)

I think this is a prime example of why the NSNB order was removed from the negotiations. It would be viewed by many as a carrot, and the fear would be that SJS would woo many pilots to vote "yes" on an agreement that otherwise would be voted down because it didn't stand on its own merit.

I strongly disagree that correcting LOA 25 in this agreement is using our previously furloughed brothers and sisters as pawns. If we were to assume that were true, the only way to NOT use them as pawns would be to keep an LOA 25 out of the discussion? This appears to me to be a "no good deed goes unpunished" situation. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.