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Old 04-25-2016 | 05:56 AM
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Is it just me or does almost all the drops and trades in our wonderfully useless trip trading system end in NO COVERAGE like 98% of the time? Perhaps I'm do something wrong here but it's just a few buttons to check doesn't seem that complicated....you have to select either Tripe Trade or Vacation Drop when submitting a drop or trade right?

Why the company has touted how great the trip trading system or Crew Companion is beyond me. Literally maybe 1 in 20 or 25 submissions actually goes through and it's that has always been for something worse than what you already have. Otherwise it just answers No Coverage. Ideas?
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Old 04-25-2016 | 06:14 AM
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You got it all right.

We can't see the reserve pool so we have no idea what the possibilities may or not be for adjusting our schedule before we try. We used to see it so we would not even try the trade because we could see there was no coverage. Now, every trade is totally in the blind. We have to shotgun everything hoping for something. That may be why the fail percentage is so high--there are so many more attempts than there used to be.

Another problem is the reserve levels are at the whim of the company. They seemed to have jacked up the min levels so they're always below coverage. They have "sole discretion," the union can "review, consult, recommend"--a bit unbalanced in my view. The company has to do what it has to do, but I would have liked to see a specific formula so at least there'd be a rationale for the levels that could be checked and verified. 20-P-5 is a total waste of bytes, "you decide and share, we say oh."

20-P-5 At its sole discretion, the Company shall determine the specific staffing parameters and metrics that govern trip-trading. The Company agrees to share the general methodology and variables with the SSC, and shall allow the SSC to review specific staffing parameters and metrics at least monthly. The SSC shall be given the opportunity to consult with and make recommendations to the Company on trade criteria, system performance, system upgrades, and error resolution.

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Old 04-25-2016 | 08:15 AM
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This is something we brought to you from LUAL. I heard there was a "worse day" trade system at LCAL that worked well. We have been the "no coverage" airline for as long as I can remember. Crew Companion HAS helped... barely. You're welcome?
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Old 04-25-2016 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
This is something we brought to you from LUAL. I heard there was a "worse day" trade system at LCAL that worked well. We have been the "no coverage" airline for as long as I can remember. Crew Companion HAS helped... barely. You're welcome?
Bad day worse day was very helpful for both line pilots and scheduling. It will be a shame if we have to waste negotiating capital to bring it to the New U.
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Old 04-25-2016 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
Bad day worse day was very helpful for both line pilots and scheduling. It will be a shame if we have to waste negotiating capital to bring it to the New U.
Bad day for worse day has complications when you apply it to a seniority based system. Number one guy could want to drop a trip but until the junior guy does a pick up the "worse day" will not become a "bad" day.
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Old 04-25-2016 | 10:01 AM
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As a reserve I've had a much harder time swapping my days around. The coverage always seems to be worse on the days I want off. This is even after trying to swap my off days from the weekend to the middle of the week! Not that it matters, 0.0 hours flown in Arpil...
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Old 04-25-2016 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
As a reserve I've had a much harder time swapping my days around. The coverage always seems to be worse on the days I want off. This is even after trying to swap my off days from the weekend to the middle of the week! Not that it matters, 0.0 hours flown in Arpil...
What aircraft, if I may ask?
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Old 04-25-2016 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
This is something we brought to you from LUAL. I heard there was a "worse day" trade system at LCAL that worked well. We have been the "no coverage" airline for as long as I can remember. Crew Companion HAS helped... barely. You're welcome?
CCS doesn't do a very good job of forecasting manning needs. As a result they will always go to the safe mode "no coverage". It protects their jobs and doesn't overtax an already strained computer system.

While we brought Trip Trading to the merger, we didn't bring the computer power to go along with it.
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Old 04-25-2016 | 12:36 PM
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Old 04-25-2016 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
As a reserve I've had a much harder time swapping my days around. The coverage always seems to be worse on the days I want off. This is even after trying to swap my off days from the weekend to the middle of the week! Not that it matters, 0.0 hours flown in Arpil...


You can try and move RSV days? How?
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