Only off by about a decade, but good one nevertheless.

 

Man, not me. I really appreciate a little positivity from the new folks I'm flying with. Nice to have some fresh air after breathing a room full of farts for the last 16 or so years. The guys/gals who are happy to be at United, cheerful about their job, eager to learn, and pleasant to talk to are the ones I most enjoy sharing an ID with. I certainly expect them to learn and defend our contract, but we as a collective company are better with people that want to do a good job.

 

I fully disagree with your sentiment. Those room full off farts you speak of got me through the last 16 or so years. I will forever be indebted to them.

The people you choose to denigrate want to do a good job but were smothered by circumstances beyond their control. I consider the fact that we did not endure a hull loss during these times as a testament to the skill and professionalism of the aviators you choose to disparage.

 

SpecialTracking,
After reading just a handful of your posts over the last month or so, I note that you have a propensity to overreact to posts you disagree with. As when something is pretty minor, and yet it is "unbelievable".

The post above is another good example.

 

fair point. don't get me wrong, fellow bored on sofa forum surfers. I too generally enjoy the positive attitude of the new hires to the sad demeanors of the 16 yr fo's. but, the 16 yr fo's "got it". we actually don't need to yap endlessly about how much we love our job for three straight 11 hr days. it's fine to read (fom not kindle of course). it's fine to talk about sports, travel, home projects. and sometimes silence is fine too. so, yea, sometimes i miss the seasoned fo's who could just do their job well without yapping about how great a job it is.

 

You're welcome to your opinion and I will maintain mine.

Three simple tenants in my posts do not constitute an overreaction to a continual denigration of the pilots who always seem to be someone's whipping boy.

 

Haha... OK, SpTr.

 

Position desk??? Hah hah.

 

We all kinda thought you liked that smell, but as a side note - maybe you've just become one of the old farts.

 

My hiring process?

Take, say...six check airman and put them in six rooms. Call in 36 applicants for an interview. Give each check airman six candidates to interview in the morning. Give each check airman 30 minutes with the applicant. Then, each check airman takes his/her six applicants to lunch. After lunch, the check airman invites as many of the six back to a sim ride in the afternoon. Those that get a thumbs up by 5PM are hired.

I don't believe in accruing points for being a member of a club/association, and I certainly don't think 20 job fair appearances is worth anything. Have a good interview with a trusted check airman, have a good lunch, then take a hop in a sim. No HR required/needed.

We don't have HR in the room when we do our simulator briefs, pre-departure briefs, sim checks, long haul trips, and they certainly aren't invited to the bar for debrief after a long day, so why exactly do we need/value their input? The only time HR is around is when something's wrong. Someone getting disciplined... I think HR should handle benefits and that's about it. But, if there is a lesbian pilots association is it possible to join that as an honorary member or as a supporter?