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Old 06-11-2016 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by buscappy
it's incredible that some of you guys actually fly airliners. really. carrying on arguments about whether a new training slot and plane/seat bid is offered by management to cover a retiring pilot or to cover new flying. I'm just rolling my eyes. must be fun to sit in your cockpits for a four day trip. are you guys like this at home, too???
What else do you suggest we talk about? The thread is about the vacancy bid......

Maybe we should discuss union stuff then we can talk about new hires in the union stuff thread and vacancy stuff in the new hire thread and aircraft orders in the uniform thread.......
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Old 06-11-2016 | 07:19 AM
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Ok, Ok, Okkkk already!

I am in SFO 777. I came close to going non-current for landings, this means SFO 777 is pretty overstaffed at the moment. When sparky took most of the international flying, I was actually thinking I'd get a bump off the plane. If you look at SFO 777 retirements, not many are retiring this year. So...one might conclude that the bids are in preparation for the 777-300. Just as the company said. BTW, why, does it really matter? Because this is the tip of the iceberg. Lots more bids to come.

My guess is that the company is still constrained by the training. The only way to prepare for that many planes in that short a time is to train ahead of time. Training in Aug, hitting the line in Oct, just as flying declines for the fall makes no sense, except to prepare for the new planes. Which also means I stay stuck on reserve and no hope of breaking guarantee.

Also, I just had my PT, or whatever it is called these days. I took a few minutes to go and talk to the fleet upstairs, and the 777 fleet is still woefully short of LCA's. It takes 3-6 months to get an LCA up to speed enough to be useful. Do I see yet another train wreck on the horizon, yes.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by buscappy
it's incredible that some of you guys actually fly airliners. really. carrying on arguments about whether a new training slot and plane/seat bid is offered by management to cover a retiring pilot or to cover new flying. I'm just rolling my eyes. must be fun to sit in your cockpits for a four day trip. are you guys like this at home, too???
When these types start with their shtick on the flight deck. You just politely agree, shut your mouth and stare out your side widow for the rest of the trip. And of course drink alone on the layover.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by b52dthdlr
2 senior 787 sfo caps bidding off on the 1st snapshot and no backfills.... the 787 is about to become bump city with the next 747 displacement
More than that. I expect the 777-300 will take back some of the pacific flying they took from the 777 this spring. Good chance SYD and TPE. That coupled with the 747 drawing down, I agree. Maybe not bumps, but certainly no more advertised vacancies for a while.

I'm sure the 777-300 will be taking some of the 747 flying too.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by buscappy
it's incredible that some of you guys actually fly airliners. really. carrying on arguments about whether a new training slot and plane/seat bid is offered by management to cover a retiring pilot or to cover new flying. I'm just rolling my eyes. must be fun to sit in your cockpits for a four day trip. are you guys like this at home, too???
Now that's funny right there....
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Old 06-11-2016 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by b52dthdlr
2 senior 787 sfo caps bidding off on the 1st snapshot and no backfills.... the 787 is about to become bump city with the next 747 displacement
They did backfill those 2 spots.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 08:23 AM
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When does your seat lock start, is it from your initial checkride? 1 yr for 737/320 right?

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Old 06-11-2016 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PA Slammer
When does your seat lock start, is it from your initial checkride? 1 yr for 737/320 right?

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First day of training. and your locked for 2 years unless you are going up. 737 to 320 would be two years.

Also if you go sideways you get a two year seat lock that is hard. You can't even go up for 2 years and can only upgrade if you stay in the same aircraft.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
First day of training. and your locked for 2 years unless you are going up. 737 to 320 would be two years.

Also if you go sideways you get a two year seat lock that is hard. You can't even go up for 2 years and can only upgrade if you stay in the same aircraft.
Uggghhhh! Actually able to get DEN and now stuck because I chose the 737. Not bad though to see 1st year guys getting DEN! Good for them. I'll have to sit it out and wait for a 737 bid.

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Old 06-11-2016 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PA Slammer
Uggghhhh! Actually able to get DEN and now stuck because I chose the 737. Not bad though to see 1st year guys getting DEN! Good for them. I'll have to sit it out and wait for a 737 bid.

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Same situation for me. Took a guppy cap bid 18 months ago, so still frozen. 320 cap is junior to me on the snapshot. Based on the max/min numbers, I don't see a 737 bid anytime soon for den. I just seem to keep hitting this thing off cycle! Good to see at least some commitment to den in general though...

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