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Old 06-27-2016 | 08:50 AM
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Speaking of carefully roasted. What does it take to evac an aircraft on fire?
SIA flight catches fire while making emergency landing in Singapore - Channel NewsAsia
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Wow, they didn't evac??!!! Major fire, and everybody stayed seated and watched. Sounds a lot like the Saudia L-1011. Only they got real lucky.

Confirmed on fire, I'm out. Of course that's why no one got injured in the evac, there wasn't one.

Their cabin crews may not have the authority to initiate and evac....I saw doors not open, no slides.......then what are they for?? Why have slides?
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Old 06-27-2016 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by awax
A good cup of coffee is a combination of good beans, carefully roasted, with clean water at the proper temperature. No company marketing BS will change that the water they use to brew the new grind comes out of an average decade-old unfiltered holding tank filled with a nasty garden hose.....
That's why I specifically added my fleet in the OP; knowing that many would be naysayers in regard to mystical properties of a "properly" brewed pot of coffee. 767-300 could be called representative of "worst-case" as it is one of the oldest coffee-systems in our combined fleet, with all the features that a true aficionado would find abhorrent.

And yet, I found it quite good.

Keep in mind, as SpecialTracking and Intrepid alluded to: all our competitors have similar systems, so the difference in perceived quality will still be palpable to the customers.

I find water from a garden hose pretty refreshing when I'm mowing the lawn in high heat and humidity.

And, our perception of "clean" is truly clouded by our "First-world" surroundings. "Filtered" water: running water that either came from a lake or well (that means it was touching dirt, rocks, and mud, and 'critter crud" from lakes) through a piece of paper (made from mashed-up tree fiber, treated with acids in the paper-making process, and I'm fairly certain, still some residual dirt), and then perhaps running it through a charcoal filter....which is technically just a piece of rock or dirt, depending on your perspective.

People spend a lot of money on bottled water because they perceive it as "cleaner." But is water that spent months in a container made of aromatic hydrocarbons (that are at least partially water-soluble) as "clean" as most would hope?

Yeah, hopefully the next-gen airliner will have a better water system and coffee maker. But for now, I mark this as an improvement.
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Old 06-27-2016 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
That's why I specifically added my fleet in the OP; knowing that many would be naysayers in regard to mystical properties of a "properly" brewed pot of coffee. 767-300 could be called representative of "worst-case" as it is one of the oldest coffee-systems in our combined fleet, with all the features that a true aficionado would find abhorrent.

And yet, I found it quite good.

Keep in mind, as SpecialTracking and Intrepid alluded to: all our competitors have similar systems, so the difference in perceived quality will still be palpable to the customers.

I find water from a garden hose pretty refreshing when I'm mowing the lawn in high heat and humidity.

And, our perception of "clean" is truly clouded by our "First-world" surroundings. "Filtered" water: running water that either came from a lake or well (that means it was touching dirt, rocks, and mud, and 'critter crud" from lakes) through a piece of paper (made from mashed-up tree fiber, treated with acids in the paper-making process, and I'm fairly certain, still some residual dirt), and then perhaps running it through a charcoal filter....which is technically just a piece of rock or dirt, depending on your perspective.

People spend a lot of money on bottled water because they perceive it as "cleaner." But is water that spent months in a container made of aromatic hydrocarbons (that are at least partially water-soluble) as "clean" as most would hope?

Yeah, hopefully the next-gen airliner will have a better water system and coffee maker. But for now, I mark this as an improvement.
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Old 06-27-2016 | 03:05 PM
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Supposedly, and I say this without having it be officially from TK and verified by a flight attendant for authenticity, Illy stipulated that to serve their product on ours, the tanks and water have to meet a certain standard.
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Old 06-27-2016 | 03:40 PM
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No comparison it's much better on FiFi and GiGi!!
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Old 06-27-2016 | 03:42 PM
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Never heard of that coffee, so I looked it up on Amazon....Yikes!....$25 a pound! I'll have to stick with chicory coffee brewed with Mississippi River water.
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Old 06-27-2016 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by luv757
Supposedly, and I say this without having it be officially from TK and verified by a flight attendant for authenticity, Illy stipulated that to serve their product on ours, the tanks and water have to meet a certain standard.
That would not surprise me. Starbucks had a similar requirement for UAL back in the day.
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Old 06-28-2016 | 12:00 AM
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The nice thing about Starbucks, like it or not, is it's unique flavor. Put your lips to Starbucks and you tend to forget about the micro particles that might or might not be present. Though not as strong and for different reasons, Illy's has the same effect.
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Old 06-28-2016 | 05:10 AM
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Ok, tried the new Illy coffee on my flight from the islands to LAX yesterday... The verdict from the entire crew, is that the coffee is a HUGE improvement over Smallsack's Fresh Brew crap. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it is even better than the Starbucks we had at legacy U. I honestly think they got it right. The rumors about Illy making UAL add new filters to its coffee makers may be true because the difference is remarkable. Will this be enough to win back all the high end defectors that went to Delta? Probably not. It's a big step in the right direction to differentiate our product though. Bravo to Oscar on this one...
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Old 06-28-2016 | 05:20 AM
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Ok, tried the new Illy coffee on my flight from the islands to LAX yesterday... The verdict from the entire crew, is that the coffee is a HUGE improvement over Smallsack's Fresh Brew crap. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it is even better than the Starbucks we had at legacy U. I honestly think they got it right. The rumors about Illy making UAL add new filters to its coffee makers may be true because the difference is remarkable. Will this be enough to win back all the high end defectors that went to Delta? Probably not. It's a big step in the right direction to differentiate our product though. Bravo to Oscar on this one...
Oh my! It must be good if its better than something you had a legacy U!!
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