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Old 08-16-2016 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Probe
For most of my 21 years at UAL my PS check was zero. Yours, may vary.
So with the current contract, perhaps not DAL sized profit sharing, but something.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 01:10 PM
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Would a new-hire from last fall be eligible for 100% of the PS, or say a pro-rated rate starting from their one year anniversary? I can't seem to find any details on how it's all calculated (not that I tried that hard...)

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Old 08-16-2016 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rv8builder
Would a new-hire from last fall be eligible for 100% of the PS, or say a pro-rated rate starting from their one year anniversary?
It goes by calendar year and you must have a FULL calendar year of service. For example, to receive profit sharing for 2016 (paid in 2017) pilots will need a DOH prior to 01/01/16. Thus, a pilot hired last December will receive a full 2016 payout. A pilot hired a few weeks later in January....a big zero.

There have been some rumblings of trying to get it pro-rated but the profit sharing is currently subject to company policy and it also applies company wide to the non-pilots that also participate.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 01:38 PM
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(Optionally can put selected percentage of funds into retirement plan up to annual IRS limit.)[/QUOTE]

If you elect to have it go into your retirement, all of it goes in untaxed, is that correct? But otherwise it's taxed when receiving it in your pay check.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
If you elect to have it go into your retirement, all of it goes in untaxed, is that correct? But otherwise it's taxed when receiving it in your pay check.
Oversimplified, and with major caveats, yes.

The best source of info will be the ALPA and UAL communications that are put out seasonally. Then you can select your retirement contribution online during the selection window prior to the payout.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 04:34 PM
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No, it is not untaxed if you put it in your PDAP. I thought it was, and it cost me a lot.

It is a different category of income. I can't remember what was taxed. I believe I would have been better off financially taking it all as taxable income, and then increasing my 401k contribution for a couple of months.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
If you elect to have it go into your retirement, all of it goes in untaxed, is that correct? But otherwise it's taxed when receiving it in your pay check.
Yes. Just like any other income. You can only shield x amount of your income via pretax 401k and B contributions. Any pretax contributions above x go to VEBA. This limit is reached via profit sharing or regular income, either one or both, it does not matter.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Probe
No, it is not untaxed if you put it in your PDAP. I thought it was, and it cost me a lot.

It is a different category of income. I can't remember what was taxed. I believe I would have been better off financially taking it all as taxable income, and then increasing my 401k contribution for a couple of months.
I think you still pay the social security portion of tax on the full profit share amount...even if you put it all into 401K.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
I think you still pay the social security portion of tax on the full profit share amount...even if you put it all into 401K.
I believe it was something like that, and if I remember right, it didn't count towards the cap in SS and medicare tax that we pay (110K ish). So I think I will end up paying a lot more SS and medicare tax than I would have had I not put it in the PDAP.
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Old 08-16-2016 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
I think you still pay the social security portion of tax on the full profit share amount...even if you put it all into 401K.
And a couple of other items, too. And since those were "income" before they got paid there is actually a small amount of federal tax that gets withheld, even if you elect 100% to go to pretax 401k.
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