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12-26-2016, 03:19 PM

#121

baseball

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Originally Posted by flap

Problem is that some pilots were contractually covered to normal retirement age as opposed to a set number

Maybe this should be a separate thread....But,

Are you by chance inferring that some pilots were meant to retire at age 60 within the current plan, and some retire at age 65 after the law changed? or, do you mean some retire at the FAA mandated age (whatever it happens to be) and some retire at a fixed pre or post tax dollar amount?

I am sure no matter what it is, this only affects former CAL pilots?

12-26-2016, 03:23 PM

#122

baseball

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Originally Posted by JoePatroni

Everything remains status quo until the company decides otherwise. The union can continually request to have the plan sold but the company can continually denY the request until such time as they see fit to assume the liability and move forward.

Was this be design or by accident?

Not very many programs the company administers unilaterally. Rather than the ability to request, I would hope that our union has the power to direct, or something a bit more forceful, maybe have some more teeth in this department. We have more control it seems with ASAP and HIMS then we do with retirement....

12-26-2016, 03:57 PM

#123

JoePatroni

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Originally Posted by baseball

The language was written long before a merger was considered, without the merger happening there would be no overage.

12-27-2016, 10:58 AM

#124

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Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal

I gotcha. Does anyone supervise the company on this? Another words, does the language preclude the association from getting involved to insure the pilots rights are being protected? For some reason, I am just not trusting of the company and feel better when my union is keeping an eye on the money.

Yes. It's called the UAL ALPA Retirement & Insurance Committee which also has L-CAL pilots as members. Oversight is exactly one of the things they exist for in regards to our benefits.

01-24-2017, 09:54 AM

#125

Dave Fitzgerald

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I may have missed it, but has anyone seen at info yet about if the MEC and management have decided what day the Delta snap up starts?

I have not seen any update in any ALPA e-mails.

I need to know how long to delay my CQDL & PC so I can get the higher pay rate....

01-24-2017, 10:02 AM

#126

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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald

The new rates will be loaded for the February bid period. There is a chance that ALPA can persuade a mediator that the date should have been earlier than Feb 1...in that case, there might be some pro-rated back pay. I wouldn't make bid decisions based on the snap up rate...it's not that big of a difference in the overall scheme of things.

01-24-2017, 10:19 AM

#127

fanaticalflyer

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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer

I wouldn't make bid decisions based on the snap up rate...it's not that big of a difference in the overall scheme of things.

Now that's funny. Dave is a typical cheap pilot that will definitely delay his training for the higher pay. You know how many pilots sleep in ops instead of getting good rest at a hotel, that are Widebody CAPs!!! It's unreal and pathetic and you wonder why this question was even proposed.