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Originally Posted by PikeAV8R
(Post 2267223)
I've been looking through the United threads and can't seem to find the new pay rates for the remainder of the contract term based on the me too with Delta. From my reading am I to understand they haven't been finalized?
Originally Posted by PikeAV8R
(Post 2267303)
Thanks for the images. Have they put out 2018 and 2019 as well or is it just a percentage increase on those numbers?
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Originally Posted by duvie
(Post 2267500)
I think the language was pretty clear, and myself, most of the people I fly with and the responses on this forum kinda indicated people thought Feb 1 was the effective date. I guess I'm glad ALPA is trying to get me more money, but I'd hardly call this an issue of the company "respecting us." So, if they stick to the Feb 1 effective date, I see nothing to "reciprocate."
It is this kind of chest pounding that makes rank and file pilots roll their eyes at the union sometimes. Just as a disclaimer for the eager beavers on here, I'm glad the union is strong and wants to pursue our interests, I just don't feel like there is in issue here with the company not complying with the agreement after all the huge gains in recent years, this guy wants to get on a forum and whine about whether a snap up starts Jan or Feb goodness some of these guys would whine no matter what they got i used to get stuck flying four days with these morose negative types so glad for the newer guys now with happier attitudes |
Originally Posted by buscappy
(Post 2267613)
whine about whether a snap up starts Jan or Feb
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Originally Posted by buscappy
(Post 2267613)
good on ya duvie for callin this baseball nut out
after all the huge gains in recent years, this guy wants to get on a forum and whine about whether a snap up starts Jan or Feb goodness some of these guys would whine no matter what they got i used to get stuck flying four days with these morose negative types so glad for the newer guys now with happier attitudes |
Originally Posted by duvie
(Post 2267500)
I think the language was pretty clear, and myself, most of the people I fly with and the responses on this forum kinda indicated people thought Feb 1 was the effective date.
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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2267465)
I hope the company sees the light so to speak and gives the pilot group the respect and the credibility we deserve. I saw the little message on CCS from management saying they have a legitimate disagreement with ALPA on it's date of pay for the pilots.
Management was given a gift by ALPA in pursuing this extension and Delta Snap up. If management screws it up, I am sure the pilot group will reciprocate. Good on ALPA for pursuing any and all avenues to gain and maintain compliance with our extension language. For any date of signing increase, the effective date of the change to the hourly rates of pay contained in this Agreement shall be the first day of the second Bid Period that starts after the date of signing of the new Delta agreement. Notwithstanding Paragraph B.2.b.ii, the effective date for any required annual increase shall remain the first day of the January Bid Period. |
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Originally Posted by fadec
(Post 2267629)
It started January for Delta. January one year ago. One full year. Retroactive. Backpay. Drats!!! Those Delta boys have beat us AGAIN!
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