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cadetdrivr 04-03-2017 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by AUBBIE99 (Post 2335576)
If so, what is the disparity between the most junior 737 slot and most junior A320 slot? Thanks.

It's virtually identical.

Junior ORD 737 F/O: 12,406
Junior ORD 320 F/O: 12,363

(Junior pilot at the company: 12,637)

That said, this info is pretty worthless to determine the "quicker" airplane to get to ORD. It's all up to the manpower planning folks and pilot movement to determine which airplane has more vacancies in the the next 6-12 months.

AUBBIE99 04-03-2017 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2335580)
It's virtually identical.

Junior ORD 737 F/O: 12,406
Junior ORD 320 F/O: 12,363

(Junior pilot at the company: 12,637)

That said, this info is pretty worthless to determine the "quicker" airplane to get to ORD. It's all up to the manpower planning folks and pilot movement to determine which airplane has more vacancies in the the next 6-12 months.

Much appreciated. Thanks.

GoCats67 04-03-2017 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by AUBBIE99 (Post 2335590)
Much appreciated. Thanks.

12043 is the junior guy that was guaranteed a line , but 12347 actually held a line 737 FO in ORD for April.

11847 is the junior guy that was guaranteed a line, but 12052 actually held a line as a 320 FO in ORD for April.

Several folks bid reserve rather than taking the junior lines. Better days off I would assume.

dmeg13021 04-04-2017 09:24 AM

Drop for the class that STARTS TODAY:
756 EWRx2
756 SFOx4

320 EWRx4
320 SFOx7

737 EWRx2
737 DCAx6
737 SFOx1
737 LAXx1

Welcome to all the new hires!

blizzue 04-04-2017 09:27 AM

So what class is that for?

/sarcasm

LeeFXDWG 04-04-2017 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by AUBBIE99 (Post 2335590)
Much appreciated. Thanks.

However 737 ORD is a much bigger category than the 320. Percentage matters for the G Line.

Lee

socalflyboy 04-04-2017 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by dmeg13021 (Post 2336247)
Drop for the class that STARTS TODAY:
756 EWRx2
756 SFOx4

320 EWRx4
320 SFOx7

737 EWRx2
737 DCAx6
737 SFOx1
737 LAXx1

Welcome to all the new hires!

Welcome aboard boys n girls...glad to have you all here!

iwannafly 04-25-2017 12:08 PM

Anyone know the 4/25 class drop?

Triumph 04-25-2017 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by iwannafly (Post 2350621)
anyone know the 4/25 class drop?



4 - 756 sfo
2 - 320 sfo
10 - 737 dca
8 - 737 sfo
2 - 737 lax

Student01 04-25-2017 02:34 PM

Why don't a lot of pilots get A319/A320? Is it preferred over the 737?
I'm just asking...

rightside02 04-25-2017 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Student01 (Post 2350704)
Why don't a lot of pilots get A319/A320? Is it preferred over the 737?
I'm just asking...


In my class which was on the 11th the 737 went senior and I couldn't even hold it . The bus clearly is more enjoyable to fly but way way way more flying hours on the 737 / flying choices better QOL they say on the 737 .

Winston 04-25-2017 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Student01 (Post 2350704)
Why don't a lot of pilots get A319/A320? Is it preferred over the 737?
I'm just asking...

A more desirable aircraft will by definition have less people bidding off it. Newhires are only offered positions that current pilots have left unfilled in previous vacancies.

All other things being equal (no greater growth in one fleet/domicile), the least desirable seat in the least desired bases will have the most openings (for new hires).

cadetdrivr 04-25-2017 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Student01 (Post 2350704)
Why don't a lot of pilots get A319/A320? Is it preferred over the 737?
I'm just asking...

The whole thing goes by seniority.

New hires are only offered slots that were still vacant after the 12,500 pilots senior to them bid and the company has available training capacity.

The next class could be all 737s.

No Nonsense 04-26-2017 01:30 AM

FYI

Must have unfilled vacancies for new hires and returning
furloughs!

8-C-8
Bulletined but unfilled First Officer vacancies and secondary vacancies may be used by the Company for the assignment of new hire pilots. This Section 8-C-8 shall not be applicable while any furloughed Pilot has not been offered recall.

7-A-2 Pilots returning to Active Service from furlough shall be assigned, in accordance with their seniority and preference, to advertised but unfilled vacancies within the system as provided in Section 8. However, a Pilot returning from voluntary furlough shall have the right to return to the Category from which he was furloughed, unless the Category no longer exists or the Pilot has insufficient seniority to hold such Category, in which case he shall be entitled to exercise displacement rights in accordance with Section 8.

Unfilled vacancies expire so ongoing needs have to be offered to line pilots first!

8-F-3-d In the event a vacancy is not filled within three (3) months of the date the award bulletin was issued, the vacancy shall be cancelled.

robthree 04-28-2017 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Student01 (Post 2350704)
Why don't a lot of pilots get A319/A320? Is it preferred over the 737?
I'm just asking...

Its more a function of fleet size. Somewhere around 160 Airbii versus almost 400 Guppies on property.

So over the last two classes 13 Airbii seats versus 30 guppy seats going to newhires means there probably is not much difference. I've got under a year and a half on property, and in some bases I'd be senior on the Bus, others I'd be senior on the Guppy. The last time I looked at the vacancy window before it closed, I could hold DEN 320, but not DEN 737; IAH 737, but not IAH 320. I'd be more senior on the 737 in SFO, but more senior on the bus in DCA.

Pretty much a wash.

iwannafly 05-02-2017 02:56 PM

5/2 class drop?

DWC CAP10 USAF 05-02-2017 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by iwannafly (Post 2355849)
5/2 class drop?

9 x SFO 320
3 x LAX 320
11 x SFO 737
1 x LAX 737

svergin 05-02-2017 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2355997)
9 x SFO 320
3 x LAX 320
11 x SFO 737
1 x LAX 737

Remember 3 years ago when every new hire class for a year only had EWR as a choice?

Gilligan13 05-03-2017 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by robthree (Post 2352849)
Its more a function of fleet size. Somewhere around 160 Airbii versus almost 400 Guppies on property.

So over the last two classes 13 Airbii seats versus 30 guppy seats going to newhires means there probably is not much difference. I've got under a year and a half on property, and in some bases I'd be senior on the Bus, others I'd be senior on the Guppy. The last time I looked at the vacancy window before it closed, I could hold DEN 320, but not DEN 737; IAH 737, but not IAH 320. I'd be more senior on the 737 in SFO, but more senior on the bus in DCA.

Pretty much a wash.

Wow, Den down to 1.5. Are the trips better on the guppy compared to the bus?

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rp2pilot 05-04-2017 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Gilligan13 (Post 2356201)
Wow, Den down to 1.5. Are the trips better on the guppy compared to the bus?

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Depends on your definition of better, and also depends, somewhat, on the base you're referencing, and it varies over time. Honestly, you need to look at the trips in each domicile and each fleet and evaluate what you can / could expect to fly based on your seniority. Even that will change as manpower awning shuffles flying around.

MasterOfPuppets 05-04-2017 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Gilligan13 (Post 2356201)
Wow, Den down to 1.5. Are the trips better on the guppy compared to the bus?

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They are so vastly different you can't even compare them. It all depends on the type of flying you want to do and where you want to fly too.

robthree 05-05-2017 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Gilligan13 (Post 2356201)
Wow, Den down to 1.5. Are the trips better on the guppy compared to the bus?

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The final award would have had me as the most junior DEN 737 pilot, and the 4th most junior DEN 320 pilot. Not much difference at the bottom. The middle of the list is about 2000 numbers more junior on the 737 in Denver. The top 10 percent is 3000 numbers junior on the 737. Probably due to the 320 having more longevity as a base in DEN.


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