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Old 01-08-2017 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
Boeing gets away with it because someone bought it.

Why do you rant about the obvious? Boeing would not make the airplane if it weren't for those who were convinced it was worth buying in spite of its flaws.

We just fly them, we didn't order them and if you don't want to fly them at UAL there are other fleets and seats to bid.
Doesn't change the fact that it is an antiquated POS
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Old 01-08-2017 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfatdaddy
Doesn't change the fact that it is an antiquated POS
Yep, or the fact that some guys get their little panties in a wad over that being pointed out to them.
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Old 01-08-2017 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
and the J-31.
"Flaps up, Flows on"

Originally Posted by Airhoss
will somebody explain to me how Boeing is getting away with producing this over stretched, under winged, under powered squat geared, cramped, 1956 designed flight deck, POS of an airplane?
It is the airplane that only an accountant can love...
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Old 01-08-2017 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
"Flaps up, Flows on"


It is the airplane that only an accountant can love...
Exactly right.
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Old 01-08-2017 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
So just to get this straight... The uber guppy has a tiny cramped flight deck, it can't climb, it's altitude limited, it's a ground loving pig, it has tiny little Barby Doll brakes and reversers, it comes across the fence at F-104 flaps up speeds AND you need an ANR headset to keep from going deaf when flying it? Just one more time please, will somebody explain to me how Boeing is getting away with producing this over stretched, under winged, under powered squat geared, cramped, 1956 designed flight deck, POS of an airplane?
Captain solo was in a 1955 B707. That trim wheel is still spinning in the NGs. Advice to new hires: airbus first and airbus as long as you can.
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Old 01-08-2017 | 04:13 PM
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Old 01-08-2017 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Airway
Telex 850 is what I use in the 737. No batteries, decent ANR, and feather light.

I rarely see pilots using them here, don't know why.. they were very popular on the RJs.
The Telex 850's noise canceling is a joke.

Bose and DC are both good options.

I'd agree that about 50% of pilots on the guppy have them. It makes for a great trip when you cancel out all the noise get to talk over the intercom.

I'm thinking about buying a second set just to show the "non-believers" how good it is.
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Old 01-09-2017 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
So just to get this straight... The uber guppy has a tiny cramped flight deck, it can't climb, it's altitude limited, it's a ground loving pig, it has tiny little Barby Doll brakes and reversers, it comes across the fence at F-104 flaps up speeds AND you need an ANR headset to keep from going deaf when flying it? Just one more time please, will somebody explain to me how Boeing is getting away with producing this over stretched, under winged, under powered squat geared, cramped, 1956 designed flight deck, POS of an airplane?
Not to mention its KILLING my back because I can't stretch out. Probably going to get a DVT clot because there is no room to put my feet into a more horizontal position. Unfrozen soon thank god!!
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Old 01-09-2017 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
So just to get this straight... The uber guppy has a tiny cramped flight deck, it can't climb, it's altitude limited, it's a ground loving pig, it has tiny little Barby Doll brakes and reversers, it comes across the fence at F-104 flaps up speeds AND you need an ANR headset to keep from going deaf when flying it? Just one more time please, will somebody explain to me how Boeing is getting away with producing this over stretched, under winged, under powered squat geared, cramped, 1956 designed flight deck, POS of an airplane?
Because line pilots don't buy the airplanes, the bean counters do.
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Old 01-09-2017 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HwkrPlt
Because line pilots don't buy the airplanes, the bean counters do.
Brilliant deduction Holmes....Still doesn't excuse Boeing from producing this lemon.

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