UPS or FEDEX? Where do I go in 2018?
02-19-2018, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
I bet 2014 hires can hold CA by the end of 2020.
However, since more and more long term by-passing FOs are bidding left seat I’m betting on 2014 hires being able to hold first available left seat some 8 years later or 2022..
..and add about two years to that (10 years - 2024) if we open a 747 sdf domicile.
02-19-2018, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
It’s possible.
However, since more and more long term by-passing FOs are bidding left seat I’m betting on 2014 hires being able to hold first available left seat some 8 years later or 2022..
..and add about two years to that (10 years - 2024) if we open a 747 sdf domicile.
However, since more and more long term by-passing FOs are bidding left seat I’m betting on 2014 hires being able to hold first available left seat some 8 years later or 2022..
..and add about two years to that (10 years - 2024) if we open a 747 sdf domicile.
I'd be willing to bet an sdf 747 base would shorten upgrade times on various fleets. That would cause a lot of movement.
02-19-2018, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
I'd be willing to bet an sdf 747 base would shorten upgrade times on various fleets. That would cause a lot of movement.
If there’s a 747 base in sdf I bet you some 75-90% of those senior FOs will bid captain.
Why? Well, we’ve got 63 1/2 year olds bidding 74 in ANC right now just so they get to retire on the whale. A 74 Louisville base would increase their numbers exponentially..
Which is why I think an sdf base would stagnate upgrades somewhat. I’m guessing an extra ~2 years versus no SDF 74 base?
I’m frequently wrong of course so ymmv..
02-20-2018, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
Sure BUT we’ve got hundreds of senior FOs bypassing right now. Not sure what the actual number is but I believe it has to be at least 500+?
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02-21-2018, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
Thanks.. betting on only 150-200 bypassing once there’s a 74 sdf domicile..
An eventual SDF 74 domicile won't change quality of life issues anymore than UPS will change scheduling patterns to be more "like the old days"
If anything, opine that scheduling quality provides and continues to be the incentive to bypass if quality of life is primary.
No doubt many seats will change hands if have a new domicile bid.
02-21-2018, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
History of bypassing suggests it will remain about same percentage. These folks don't need a new domicile bid to move to the left. They intentionally pass every bid. Quality of life issue is usually primary reason to bypass. Many permanent FO's until 63 + till 64 to leave with Captain A Plan.
An eventual SDF 74 domicile won't change quality of life issues anymore than UPS will change scheduling patterns to be more "like the old days"
If anything, opine that scheduling quality provides and continues to be the incentive to bypass if quality of life is primary.
No doubt many seats will change hands if have a new domicile bid.
An eventual SDF 74 domicile won't change quality of life issues anymore than UPS will change scheduling patterns to be more "like the old days"
If anything, opine that scheduling quality provides and continues to be the incentive to bypass if quality of life is primary.
No doubt many seats will change hands if have a new domicile bid.
Time will tell. I think whale is a different animal and that bringing it to sdf would change people’s bidding preferences, especially those who’ve been bypassing for many years.
We’ll see. It’s a good “problem” to worry about..
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